UK courtroom to hear evidence against the official narrative of 9/11

[Spymaster]

Quote from the dick in the video above (@2.00): "Whenever the FBI or the police are holding a drill, run like hell in the opposite direction".

Quote from another dick on this thread:

If you are anywhere near a terror-related drill, run as fast as you can

It's not even your own stuff that you post here. You're just a shill for other morons. You plagiarising twat!

 

[existentialist]

Not necessarily contradictory points, those. I think he DOES believe his stuff or at least most of it -- but I also agree he's on a windup as well -- at least sometimes.

I don't think he's on a windup so much as believes that he really is much, much cleverer than the rest of us. Quantum leap cleverer.

 

[UhOhSeven]

It's not even your own stuff that you post here, you plagiarising twat!

Or possibly a case of 'great minds think alike/fools seldom differ' (I know which one I'd bet on).

 

[existentialist]

Or possibly a case of 'great minds think alike/fools seldom differ' (I know which one I'd bet on).

Given Jazzz 's complete unfamiliarity with anything to do with the scientific method, it's equally likely that he is quoting someone else but just forgot to make that clear...

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

I don't think he's on a windup so much as believes that he really is much, much cleverer than the rest of us. Quantum leap cleverer.

It's his religion. He is trying to save us, lead us into the light.

 

[Wilf]

Christ Jazzz, on this one, with gun battles taking place in Boston, one bloke shot and another captured, I thought even you might have had the good grace to pull out of these absurd claims.

Oh and by the way on the 'drills', it's not impossible the FBI did hear something about the actual threat (or indeed another threat to the marathon/City of Boston). What they were running as a drill might well have been their attempt to guard against an attack, having first done a risk assessment that it should go ahead. Don't you think that (or indeed that it really was a random drill) is infinitely more likely than the FBI were seeking to muder the people of Boston?

 

[butchersapron]

Or it might be a drill because a large event was planned. I hear people do that.

 

[two sheds]

Another win-win - if they hadn't had sniffer dogs out it would have been 'a major event like that and they weren't even bothered to find out whether there were bombs - shows that they're all in collusion'.

 

[Wilf]

Or it might be a drill because a large event was planned. I hear people do that.

Evidence that people are trying to stop terrorists makes me suspicious they are trying to commit terrorism. I also suspect Luis Suarez of trying to keep dentistry out of football.

 

[butchersapron]

Evidence that people are trying to stop terrorists makes me suspicious they are trying to commit terrorism. I also suspect Luis Suarez of trying to keep dentistry out of football.

I saw a plaster cast in the dentists this morning - looked suspiciously Uruguayan.

 

[Wilf]

False flag detistry, it's a Rothschild-Colgate thing.

 

[kenny g]

http://www.youtube.com/user/davidlory has a fascinating exposition of how a missile was used against the fertiliser plant. It looks like Occupy Freedom are really on the cutting edge of news gathering at the moment.

How can I trust a man who uses the present tense to express a wish for the future?

I am the Governor of Nevada in 2014.]

 

[brogdale]

False flag detistry, it's a Rothschild-Colgate thing.

The chews.

 

[butchersapron]

False flag detistry, it's a Rothschild-Colgate thing.

The truth - with teeth.

 

[butchersapron]

The chews.

 

[goldenecitrone]

False flag detistry, it's a Rothschild-Colgate thing.

Well you may jest about evil dentists and their devilish fillings.

 

[Wilf]

Well you may jest about evil dentists and their devilish fillings.

Is it safe?

 

[FabricLiveBaby!]

http://www.youtube.com/user/davidlory has a fascinating exposition of how a missile was used against the fertiliser plant. It looks like Occupy Freedom are really on the cutting edge of news gathering at the moment. ?

He's so fucking disingenuous.

His first line is "I'm David Lory the next governor of Nevada...."

In the first 3 seconds we've got a massive appeal to authority and a HUGE assumption.

Next governor of Nevada indeed - how the fuck does he know?

Edit... also this is his tag line on Youtube

I am the Governor of Nevada in 2014

Does he have a crystal ball?

 

[Zapp Brannigan]

So to recap:

Sniffer dogs = knew about the bombs = false flag
No sniffer dogs = didn't want to find the bombs = false flag
Terrorism emergency response drills = cover for covert operation = false flag
No terrorism emergency response drills = no intent of disturbing covert operation = false flag
Mum & dad of suspects refuse to believe that their kids are involved = set up = proof of false flag
Mum & dad of suspects throw their kids to the wolves = set up = proof of false flag

 

[Wilf]

So to recap:

Sniffer dogs = knew about the bombs = false flag
No sniffer dogs = didn't want to find the bombs = false flag
Terrorism emergency response drills = cover for covert operation = false flag
No terrorism emergency response drills = no intent of disturbing covert operation = false flag
Mum & dad of suspects refuse to believe that their kids are involved = set up = proof of false flag
Mum & dad of suspects throw their kids to the wolves = set up = proof of false flag

I have a suspicion Jazzz won't want to get into this.

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

sadly, zapp is correct. I haven't followed this Boston story closely. I thought the coverage, especially in this country, was disproportionate, not least to the amount who will have been killed by drones this week. Oh, sorry, that's brown people wot talk foreign, not proper humans. Silly me.

But as for any conspiracy beyond the official narrative I just don't know. Struck me as silly to bomb a place by hanging around there mind. Couldn't they just use remote devices?

But whenever anything happens there are people predisposed to assume false flag, that is a mistake and it looks stupid. False flags do happen, as do assinations made to look like something else, but why not judge on a balanced case by case basis instead of a pre-supposition. Pre-supposing that authority is telling the truth is just what MSM do, and it is demontrably daft.

there's enough random nutters out there to do this kind of thing from time to time. Recognising that doesn't make one a mainstreamist dupe. Too many people are absolutist in this debate, always have been.

There's those who can barely open a bag of crisps without thinking it's connected to MK Ultra or Monarch.

There's those who act like there was a big meeting one day, presumably not as long ago as Iran Contra or Gladio, where the elite decided "This black-op stuff has worked pretty well, so lets not bother with it any more"

 

[butchersapron]

In your long experience of bombing, you think remote bombing is best? What gauge are you using? Maybe there were reason other than total deaths involved that drove the coverage - such as potential global implications.

What is wrong with you people?

 

[FabricLiveBaby!]

As if anyone could ever find out The Truth™ by looking at a few dodgy photos on the internet anyway.

 

[Pickman's model]

The simple truth is few people have the time or inclination to look deeply into how to kill lots and lots of people. Given half an ounce of thought ten times more people could have died on 7/7: and if it had been a false flag op you can bet there would have been proper mass casualties. There's been at least one academic article about jihadi tradecraft which i've seen: when you're dealing with angry people they can make deadly weapons, they can even use deadly weapons, but they (fortunately) rarely give a great deal of thought to how best to use them, or how to scarper after.

 

[8den]

The simple truth is few people have the time or inclination to look deeply into how to kill lots and lots of people. Given half an ounce of thought ten times more people could have died on 7/7: and if it had been a false flag op you can bet there would have been proper mass casualties. There's been at least one academic article about jihadi tradecraft which i've seen: when you're dealing with angry people they can make deadly weapons, they can even use deadly weapons, but they (fortunately) rarely give a great deal of thought to how best to use them, or how to scarper after.

Agreed. Whats really worrying about the 7/7 bombings/Glasgow airport/ is how half arsed they were. Putting some serious thought into it could have left much greater casualties. And not even changing the bombings just changing targets.

 

[Jon-of-arc]

Jazzz I have one other question, which I'd like to ask you; what sort of evidence could convince you that this wasn't a "false flag"? Hypothetically, if you had access to 24 hour video recordings of the two bombers, from the day they were born to the day of their death/capture, and these recordings showed them planning and perpetrating the bombings, without assistance, would this convince you? Or anything less? Do you acknowledge that there's room for error in the conclusions you've reached? Or do you consider your theory to be fact?

Personally, I accept its possible that this bombing was a false flag. Unlikely to the point of absurdity, but just possible. What I do not accept is that there is any evidence that this is the case available right now. There's some pictures which don't show much, there's some circumstances which might possibly be explained by inside job stuff (although I would argue are more easily explained by mundane, innocent explanations) like the "drills", and there is lots of wild speculation. Nothing coming close to concrete proof. Show me some, and I'd be more than happy to believe you. I'd be shocked, appalled and happy to eat my own words. Can you say you'd ever be prepared to do the same thing?

 

[Zapp Brannigan]

Hypothetically, if you had access to 24 hour video recordings of the two bombers, from the day they were born to the day of their death/capture, and these recordings showed them planning and perpetrating the bombings, without assistance, would this convince you?

Bred them for it.

 

[Jazzz]

Christ Jazzz, on this one, with gun battles taking place in Boston, one bloke shot and another captured, I thought even you might have had the good grace to pull out of these absurd claims.

Oh and by the way on the 'drills', it's not impossible the FBI did hear something about the actual threat (or indeed another threat to the marathon/City of Boston). What they were running as a drill might well have been their attempt to guard against an attack, having first done a risk assessment that it should go ahead. Don't you think that (or indeed that it really was a random drill) is infinitely more likely than the FBI were seeking to muder the people of Boston?

in which case:

1) They are denying that any such threat or intelligence existed. Why are they doing this, and what was that intelligence/threat?

2) Why couldn't they stop the attack?

 

[Pickman's model]

in which case:

1) They are denying that any such threat or intelligence existed. Why are they doing this, and what was that intelligence/threat?

2) Why couldn't they stop the attack?

what i want to know, and what i think a lot of other people here want to know, is why can't you stop posting such awful drivel?

 

[kenny g]

in which case:

1) They are denying that any such threat or intelligence existed. Why are they doing this, and what was that intelligence/threat?

2) Why couldn't they stop the attack?

You are getting desperate if you need to latch on to a poster's hypothetical potential as evidence of an event happening.