Two arrested for murder after hunt supporter's death

[Funky_monks]

Yeah but you're not a fucking townie from north london

This is very true.

 

[madzone]

Oh aye, thats another £50.

Don't forget the photos and the stamp for posting it

 

[Funky_monks]

yeh but once you've got the shotgun you can make the £50 back from one job

If the one job is a bank job then you are quids in.

 

[Funky_monks]

Don't forget the photos and the stamp for posting it

£53.50, then.

 

[madzone]

£53.50, then.

That's more like it

 

[Funky_monks]

That's more like it

What if you drive it round the local constabulary yourself, eh, eh?

 

[Pickman's model]

What if you drive it round the local constabulary yourself, eh, eh?

yeh you could do them one by one

 

[Jazzz]

I quite agree, if people are willing to be pureed for their beliefs, let them.

Having had the misfortune to be driving from Havant to Scotland every Friday for six weeks, via Newbury, gave me a strong desire to suspend the bypass protesters from the nearest tree.

( The Tienanmen Square incident is somewhat different from some unwashed Luddite standing in front of a bulldozer in a vain attempt to stop the construction of a much needed bypass. )

That is the complete opposite of my post. The Tianaman Square incident is no different. Should the tank run him over, it is criminal. Should the bulldozer run over the luddite, it is criminal. Should the girl that goes to Mike Tyson's bedroom be raped, it is criminal (idiotically, his lawyers made the defence of 'what did she expect?' instead of consent/entrapment). And if the man charges his gyrocopter at the guy and takes him out then it's manslaughter (I am assuming the intention was not to kill).

The 'justness' of the cause, or the intelligence of the victim does not come into it.

 

[kabbes]

My dog with noise phobia that lives in abject fear all winter because of the shooting season, to the extent that he may refuse to leave the house for days at a time, thanks you for your dedication to such an antisocial sport.

 

[likesfish]

shooting is hardly an anti social sport unless you live right next to a range/shoot.
even the army does'nt shoot 24 hours a day.

 

[kabbes]

If you are five miles away from a shoot, you still can distinctly hear the shots. It's not really loud or anything, but to a dog it sounds like fireworks. They don't know where it is coming from and, if sensitive to that kind of noise, they find it terrifying.

 

[Funky_monks]

In all seriousness Id take it round a shoot, if you can - there will be other dogs there loving it, it might well help him out.

If your dog was scared of traffic noise, would you expect people to stop driving places?

 

[DotCommunist]

false dichotomy is false

 

[kabbes]

In all seriousness Id take it round a shoot, if you can - there will be other dogs there loving it, it might well help him out.

If your dog was scared of traffic noise, would you expect people to stop driving places?

Wow -- amongst the numerous specialists and animal behaviourists that we have consulted on the matter, plus the books we've read about canine psychology and behaviour, you'd have thought that SOMEONE would have come up with this simple answer to all our problems!

 

[Lemon Eddy]

My dog with noise phobia that lives in abject fear all winter because of the shooting season, to the extent that he may refuse to leave the house for days at a time, thanks you for your dedication to such an antisocial sport.

You reckon shooting is anti-social. on the grounds that your dog has a noise phobia and it scares them?

Apologies for any offence, but that's a pretty self-centred contention. My daughter's terrified of dogs, but I don't expect people to give up either owning them or taking them out of public for fear of upsetting her.

 

[detective-boy]

My daughter's terrified of dogs, but I don't expect people to give up either owning them or taking them out of public for fear of upsetting her.

Good point, well made ...

When did we seem to lose all sense of the concept of a reasonable level of tolerance of others?

 

[Spymaster]

Shoot the dog.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Shoot the dog.

Nah. Shoot kabbes.

 

[Spymaster]

Nah. Shoot kabbes.

Two barrels on most shotguns.

..... amongst the numerous specialists and animal behaviourists that we have consulted on the matter, plus the books we've read about canine psychology and behaviour, you'd have thought that SOMEONE would have come up with this simple answer to all our problems!

You should've asked me.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Gyrocopter pilot cleared of manslaughter over hunt member's death

 

[butchersapron]

I knew it, from the prosecutions first witiness (i think it was) - the hunt leader, or whatever they call the boss - he fucked the case judging from the reports i read and heard.

 

[William of Walworth]

Gyrocopter pilot cleared of manslaughter over hunt member's death

I need to read up some more on this obviously, but my first reaction is to be somewhat surprised actually! I had thought? that the prosecution had enough to give Mr Griffiths and his lawyers a tough time but ... oh well we'll see I suppose.

 

[paolo]

Quite surprised by this.

The Guardian article on the judgement suggest that the victim was stationary and the aircraft moving. Did the pilot attempt to stop? Was there enough time to stop? Anyone have any links for more detail about that?

 

[T & P]

HEY SPYMASTER

Gyrocopter pilot cleared of manslaughter over hunt member's death

In case you missed it, like...

 

[butchersapron]

Anyone know if the John Curtin who was also in the gyrocopter is the same JC who went to jail for digging up the body of the ex-Duke of Beaufort's grave? (And apparently has been involved in other grave related stuff)

 

[Blagsta]

Anyone know if the John Curtin who was also in the gyrocopter is the same JC who went to jail for digging up the body of the ex-Duke of Beaufort's grave? (And apparently has been involved in other grave related stuff)

I used to know John, there's only one John Curtin in the AR movement afaik!

 

[Geri]

I used to know John, there's only one John Curtin in the AR movement afaik!

I would say it must be.

I went to his trial at Bristol Crown Court.

 

[elbows]

The Countryside Alliance seem clear that its the same person:

Countryside Alliance spokesman Chloe Finch said witnesses for the prosecution will include Warwickshire master Antony Spencer and the female hunt supporter who was with Trevor when he was killed.

"We also expect both Peter Bunce of the POWA [Protect Our Wild Animals campaign] who filmed the whole incident and convicted animal rights extremist John Curtin, who was Griffiths' co-pilot, to appear as witnesses," she said.

Now that the case is over the Countryside Alliance seem to be clearly suggesting that a lesson from this case is not to go after anti-hunt people in this way again:

Countryside Alliance chief executive Simon Hart commented: "This is a difficult time for Trevor Morse's family, partner and friends. As a result of animal rights activists one man is dead and another has faced very serious criminal charges.

"If there is one outcome from the horrific events of this case it must be that the activity which led to Trevor Morse's death is not repeated

"It is for police forces to enforce the Hunting Act and the laws of the land."

I found these quotes in articles on 'horseandhound.co.uk'.

 

[DotCommunist]

Good show.

ITV news scheduled this second to an OMFG THE KIDS report about mephedrone

 

[gavman]

two of them did die, tbf