Two arrested for murder after hunt supporter's death

[DotCommunist]

What do you call a deer with no eyes and 4 broken legs?

not quick enough?

 

[Spymaster]

still no i-dea

Still no i-dea



Nice edit

 

[claphamboy]

Still no i-dea

what's with the ????

 

[pengaleng]

animal rights protestors are fucking morons.

 

[Spymaster]

what's with the ????

Just being intentionally rude!!!!

 

[claphamboy]

Just being intentionally rude!!!!

You were not quick enough.

I was speeding when I edited.

 

[William of Walworth]

animal rights protestors are fucking morons.

... as the Judge plans to state in his one line summary of the case to the Jury before they consider their verdict ...

 

[William of Walworth]

Cheers for the updates folks, not been on this thread since well before it was bumped in June

(but I was down Somerset way when Giles bumped it).

 

[gsv]

teeps is a fucking wind-up merchant

GS(v)


yes, I'm going for the annual state-the-bleeding-obvious award

 

[elbows]

This case is in court now, I only noticed because its local news for me. Here is the most recent story:

A GYROCOPTER pilot has told a jury how he feared for his safety during a confrontation with a hunt supporter at an airfield near Stratford.

Bryan Griffiths, 55, told Birmingham Crown Court he thought he would be attacked if he had not got away. He said he was ‘very frightened’’.

Warwickshire Hunt member Trevor Morse, 48, died on March 9 last year at Long Marston airfield when he was hit by gyrocopter’s propeller blades as Griffiths was trying to take off.

Griffiths, of Wiltshire Close, Bedworth, denies manslaughter by gross negligence.

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/ne...rter-at-long-marston-airfield-92746-26011263/

Previous stories have covered video evidence shown in court, 999 calls and some gruesome details and witness statements. There is a fair amount of detail about the general battle between the hunt supporters and the anti's, with some evidence that the hunt supporters had been researching the pilot and a suggestion that their intentions may have been unlawful.

 

[elbows]

The other local news stories on the trial:

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/ne...intend-to-hurt-hunt-supporter-92746-25989369/

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/ne...-killed-by-gyrocopter-blade-92746-25961581/2/

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/ne...ntic-999-call-played-in-court-92746-25969611/

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/ne...gyrocopter-death-video-horror-92746-25951483/

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/ne...-long-marston-gyrocopter-case-92746-25943682/

 

[Sasaferrato]

Bugger, I missed that.

Damn you Mrs M and your censorship.

Some consistency would be nice. Both Madzone and Stupid Dogbot posted PMs that I had sent, I wasn't particularly bothered, but neither got even a mention.

 

[Mrs Magpie]

I didn't know...I only deal with stuff I know about....

 

[Sasaferrato]

I didn't know...I only deal with stuff I know about....

Sorry Mrs M, it wasn't particularly a pop at you. As I said, I wasn't bothered, it was expressing my annoyance with the pair of them, without boring the arse off everyone else. They have somewhat dubious ' honour ' of being the only two people on my ignore list.

 

[Jazzz]

I'd love to support the saboteur side but from what I've read this looks like manslaughter.

 

[Sasaferrato]

I'd love to support the saboteur side but from what I've read this looks like manslaughter.

If the hunt saboteurs had the courage of their convictions, they would take the place of the fox.

 

[Blagsta]

I'd love to support the saboteur side but from what I've read this looks like manslaughter.

Nothing hunts haven't been guilty of in the past.

 

[Blagsta]

If the hunt saboteurs had the courage of their convictions, they would take the place of the fox.

dick

 

[Sasaferrato]

dick

Charming.

 

[DotCommunist]

I'd love to support the saboteur side but from what I've read this looks like manslaughter.

I'm weeping into my museli

 

[Diamond]

Nothing hunts haven't been guilty of in the past.

That's a crap argument.

 

[Blagsta]

That's a crap argument.

I haven't made an argument.

 

[Diamond]

I haven't made an argument.

OK, that's a crap point.

Same difference.

 

[Blagsta]

OK, that's a crap point.

Same difference.

It's not really a point either. Just pointing out a fact.

 

[Diamond]

It's not really a point either. Just pointing out a fact.

Recontextualise/Decontextualise. I'm not sure which one it is.

Your point stands though.

 

[ViolentPanda]

If the hunt saboteurs had the courage of their convictions, they would take the place of the fox.

The idea is to sabotage the hunt, not give near-sexual pleasure to receding-chinned cousin-fuckers.

 

[Lemon Eddy]

The idea is to sabotage the hunt, not give near-sexual pleasure to receding-chinned cousin-fuckers.

True. But it's also not supposed to see you caving someone's head in. Perhaps some middle ground between the two?

 

[gavman]

Fairly sure intent isn't required for murder, just sufficient recklessness.

not true. murder requires intent to kill. recklessness is manslaughter

 

[gavman]

You'd need more than that for indirect intent when it comes to murder.

The prospect of death has to be a virtual certainty and the perp must appreciate that at that point in time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intention_in_English_law

this is more relevant:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_in_English_law

 

[gavman]

They can both be as bad as each other in my experience.
Often its the hunt supporters not the hunters themselves that can be the most over excitable.

that explains why the countryside march was so peaceful