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MochaSoul said:
Not content with trampling over MLK day you decide to make Holocaust Memorial day all about how the Nazis affected trans too. At least the author of the piece had more sense.
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I've no idea what you're talking about :D:D:D:facepalm:

Aside: I didn't even know today was Holocaust memorial Day. That's not why I posted. What the fuck has MLK got to do with this I have no idea, I never mentioned him, or his day.

I posted it because there seems to be a lot of talk about trans being some new thing. Plus I thought people might be interested.

But hey, if there's a stick to hit me with, however tenuous, why not, eh? Lucky I'm no longer giving any shits. I just think it's fucking hilarious now.
 
MochaSoul said:
So not sorry, VP. Other people are talking about Bosnia and Rwanda. People who actually died. It's hard to be aware of how people got experimented on by the Nazis and then hearing moaning about they didn't choose to do those for the benefit of another group of people.
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So you're ok with LGBT people being murdered by the Nazis. Just so I know.
 
I found the article interesting and I have no idea why anyone would take issue with a story about nazis burning research.

Actually I do have some ideas why but its almost obsolete to go there at this point.
 
Persecution of homosexuals in Nazi Germany and the Holocaust - Wikipedia

Trans people were murdered alongside gay people by the way.

On November 11, 1933, the Hamburg City Administration asked the Head of Police to “pay special attention to transvestites” and to “deliver them to the concentration camps.”. In 1938 the Institute of Forensic Medicine recommended that the “phenomena of transvestism” be “exterminated from public life.” The Institute went on to state, “draconian measures by the government against stubborn and hard-headed transvestites are … adequate.” However, for the most part Nazis made little distinction between trans people and cis queer men and women
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https://www.quora.com/What-were-the-views-of-the-nazis-on-transgender-people-and-transsexual-people
 
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elbows said:
I found the article interesting and I have no idea why anyone would take issue with a story about nazis burning research.

Actually I do have some ideas why but its almost obsolete to go there at this point.
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Apart from being two years out on Hitler's taking power, it's an interesting sketch of a little discussed aspect of the Weimar Republic.
 
MochaSoul said:
Funnily enough, I take days like these in a supranational way. I remember MLK because the struggles he helped advance are mine and they should be yours too. But yeh... maybe not.
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Yeh. I wonder how much advancing there'd have been if it hadn't been for malcolm x. But curious why some third mon in jan and not the anniversary of his murder, 4 april, which is when I think of yer man's legacy.
 
Sea Star said:
just fuck off please
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What because you say so? I've lived with a narcissist. I know the tricks.


Pickman's model said:
Yeh. I wonder how much advancing there'd have been if it hadn't been for malcolm x. But curious why some third mon in jan and not the anniversary of his murder, 4 april, which is when I think of yer man's legacy.
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I'm well aware of what is celebrated about MLK (and what's not) and why Malcolm X is not and why Paul Robeson's legacy has virtually been reduced to songs. By all means open a thread if you're that interested
 
MochaSoul said:
I'm well aware of what is celebrated about MLK (and what's not) and why Malcolm X is not and why Paul Robeson's legacy has virtually been reduced to songs. By all means open a thread if you're that interested
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I like your avoiding of the 15/1 / 4/4 issue

What other federal holidays do you observe?
 
Lets have something more cheery. I confess I do not know much about this crowd but like what I hear so far.


Thurman is proud to say the Birmingham chapter is “racially mixed; most of these kids are poor. There’s lesbian, queer, gay, trans … and they’re looking for ways to fight.”

When I express surprise to Thurman that a 66-year-old white guy who lives in Meridianville, Ala., is so caught up with progressive politics like transgender rights, he’s only mildly offended.

“The ones that I know, older guys, people are welcoming it,” Thurman says. “That’s a part of the country, a part of right now. [Transgender people are] oppressed, discriminated against and this is a way for them to voice their opinions.” The only people he says he’s heard disparaging transgender people are “Trump supporters, ‘Trumpeters,’ — hell, they just don’t like polite people.”
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Opinion | Resurrecting the alliance of black revolutionaries and Southern whites, decades after a government crackdown
 
MochaSoul said:
What because you say so? I've lived with a narcissist. I know the tricks.
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Never mind that I was in an abusive relationship for years with someone with NPD and still suffering the mental health issues from that till this day. You just go and accuse anyone you like of being abusive why don't you? Just stamp over anyone you disagree with and make accusations with no foundation what so ever.

You really are the most disgusting human being on these boards.
 
Sea Star said:
Never mind that I was in an abusive relationship for years with someone with NPD and still suffering the mental health issues from that till this day. You just go and accuse anyone you like of being abusive why don't you? Just stamp over anyone you disagree with and make accusations with no foundation what so ever.

You really are the most disgusting human being on these boards.
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Stanley Edwards will be disappointed to hear that. Not to mention Gromit. Both have long vied for that honour.
 
Pickman's model said:
I like your avoiding of the 15/1 / 4/4 issue

What other federal holidays do you observe?
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Before I got into politics I already thought it was odd that Christmas seemed more keenly celebrated than Easter. It helped me get away from gods. "Observing" is too pompous a word for what I do with what I choose to remember.
 
Sea Star said:
Never mind that I was in an abusive relationship for years with someone with NPD and still suffering the mental health issues from that till this day. You just go and accuse anyone you like of being abusive why don't you? Just stamp over anyone you disagree with and make accusations with no foundation what so ever.

You really are the most disgusting human being on these boards.
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Thank you. I'd like to thank blah, blah, blah
 
This thread is so depressing. Since it came up, the point of holocaust remembrance is probably to try to remember that what happened started with a way of thinking where us and them became so polarised that people no longer saw eachother as humans. I don't want to give up trying to communicate across the divide but does seem hopeless sometimes.
 
MochaSoul said:
Before I got into politics I already thought it was odd that Christmas seemed more keenly celebrated than Easter. It helped me get away from gods. "Observing" is too pompous a word for what I do with what I choose to remember.
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Which is a strange thing for you to say because you've been exceeding pompous over the entire mlk/holocaust day thing.
 
bimble said:
This thread is so depressing. Since it came up, the point of holocaust remembrance is probably to try to remember that what happened started with a way of thinking where us and them became so polarised that people no longer saw eachother as humans. I don't want to give up trying to communicate across the divide but does seem hopeless sometimes.
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Holocaust Memorial is also about how people stood by while others were persecuted not just for who they were but for the views they held. A point missed by those who insist on remaining silent when points about freedom of speech and association, to give two glaring examples, are raised here.
 
So it's fine for people to accuse me of being an abuser and no one cares? Jeez, this place!!!
 
MochaSoul said:
Holocaust Memorial is also about how people stood by while others were persecuted not just for who they were but for the views they held. A point missed by those who insist on remaining silent when points about freedom of speech and association, to give two glaring examples, are raised here.
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You've shown how up for fos you are by trying to close down SS for saying things you dislike on hmd
E2A if you disagree argue the point, don't say you can't say that on this arbitrary government appointed day
 
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