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Tory MP David Amess Stabbed to Death 15/10/21

being a brexiter , pro life and someone who religously voted against gay rights

would not be surprised if he was cornholing someones kids and got stabbed for it
 
So, we've gone from a wild claim that this was "the absolutely direct manifestation of the society designed and implemented by him and his colleagues."

To it being a Somali.

Fun watching the wind change, I wonder how the mental gymnastics are going to play out now?
 
So, we've gone from a wild claim that this was "the absolutely direct manifestation of the society designed and implemented by him and his colleagues."

To it being a Somali.

Fun watching the wind change, I wonder how the mental gymnastics are going to play out now?

of course being Somali he cannie of live in his constituency

good essex men keep the darkies out
 
So, we've gone from a wild claim that this was "the absolutely direct manifestation of the society designed and implemented by him and his colleagues."

To it being a Somali.

Fun watching the wind change, I wonder how the mental gymnastics are going to play out now?
I thought you agreed with that original comment? Now it's a wild claim. You've changed your tune quickly.
 
this is a nice variation on the do you mean but i am sure the answer is still no.
Here's what chilango said:
I mean, obviously, it's horrific. Particularly for those innocent bystanders caught up in it who will have to live with those memories of today and what they experienced

But...this is the absolutely direct manifestation of the society designed and implemented by him and his colleagues.

We can obviously point to the casual and callous disregard for the 138,000+ who have died of Covid, including the 157 today who will receive no outpouring of outrage from Amess' colleagues.

We could point to the 50,000 - 120,000 deaths caused by the austerity policies of Amess' Party.

We could equally look at the cynical whipping up of hatred and division by Amess' Party in its pursuit of power, it's willingness to deploy rhetoric of treachery and war.

The death of one is a tragedy. The death of millions is just a statistic.

So, spare me the performative outrage, the howls of horror, the wailing, the weeping, the gnashing of teeth...this is the world he made turning on one of its masters.
So 3 different options which try to explain why if one man stabbed to death another man, its probably cos one of them was was a tory:

1) its cos the tories presided over a disastrous covid response or maybe

2) he stabbed him cos of tory austerity or maybe

3) its cos they were so willing to attack remainers / the EU as traitors enemies of the people etc

Loads of love on here for that post (49 'likes'?! i didnt know there were even 49 of us on here ) .

Sorry but I think its crap.
If we want to talk about the fetid decay of our society as a whole and blame the tories for it fine but then its got to be about the many other people stabbed to death so far this year in the UK, none of whom were tory MPS.
 
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Lot of claims being bandied around. But in more concrete terms, I heard that a ghost definitely fitting the description of Lady Diana, wearing a pair of elastic-waisted stonewash jeans, was seen swooshing away from his surgery with a knife in hand. I'm not saying Diana did it, but if confirmed it seems there's more at play here than we realise...
 
Lot of claims being bandied around. But in more concrete terms, I heard that a ghost definitely fitting the description of Lady Diana, wearing a pair of elastic-waisted stonewash jeans, was seen swooshing away from his surgery with a knife in hand. I'm not saying Diana did it, but if confirmed it seems there's more at play here than we realise...

We won't know shit for at least a few days and probably not for a couple of weeks when it all comes out in actual reports.

Until then we're reliant on unsourced rumours from news agencies pretending that they know what's going on when really they are just sourcing twatter.
 
I thought you agreed with that original comment? Now it's a wild claim. You've changed your tune quickly.
I agreed with the whole post, just not that one line. The bold part is the only part I was asking for evidence for.

"I mean, obviously, it's horrific. Particularly for those innocent bystanders caught up in it who will have to live with those memories of today and what they experienced
But...this is the absolutely direct manifestation of the society designed and implemented by him and his colleagues.
We can obviously point to the casual and callous disregard for the 138,000+ who have died of Covid, including the 157 today who will receive no outpouring of outrage from Amess' colleagues.
We could point to the 50,000 - 120,000 deaths caused by the austerity policies of Amess' Party.
We could equally look at the cynical whipping up of hatred and division by Amess' Party in its pursuit of power, it's willingness to deploy rhetoric of treachery and war.
The death of one is a tragedy. The death of millions is just a statistic.
So, spare me the performative outrage, the howls of horror, the wailing, the weeping, the gnashing of teeth...this is the world he made turning on one of its masters."
 
dandred really as i like a beer also can i suggest watching a movie

you posts are being disjoined and not really have a clear direction or message
 
i await to see if we are going to get security at churchs and for mps after monday



that will help with attendence
 
Cox was killed by a total baddie but this guy was killed by someone who just objects to austerity and so on is that your play?

Nope.

Neither of those statements.

Both Cox"s and Amess' murderers had agency over their actions, and thus are responsible for them, yet both were shaped by, and acted within, a particular form of society and the values, structures and material conditions of that society. Which in turn frame the possible ways in which people can, and do, act.
 
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