imposs1904
Thread Killa'
If the Tories have any (political) sense the 1922 Committee will deliver the leadership to him on a silver platter.
Tory leadership contest 2024
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If the Tories have any (political) sense the 1922 Committee will deliver the leadership to him on a silver platter.
imposs1904
Thread Killa'
Anyone rememeber Braverman's acceptance speech?
Very odd. " I am sorry MY party didn't listen to you" My party needs to change etc.
Sounded very much like she was setting her stall out
Braverman - 'I'm sorry my party didn't listen to you'
Suella Braverman apologised to the British public in an emotional speech as she retained her seat in Farehamwww.bbc.co.uk
I watched her speech when it went live. She seemed incredibly happy for someone whose Party had just received the mother of all kickings.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
I think you mean 'no sense'.
Farage is a bit like marmite, but a hell of a lot more hate him, compared to the few that love him.
Silas Loom
Advanced. Forthright. Signifficant.
If they went that route, they’d need to first rally round a leader who was explicitly promising a merger with Reform, and who was only fighting for the leadership position so that they could then hand over gracefully to the Frog Lord.
That person would need to have 40 MPs supporting them to be sure of coming second. I don’t think there are that many Faragists left on the Tory benches.
imposs1904
Thread Killa'
By him and his ilk standing down in 2019 he heavily contributed to a massive Tory majority.
By him and his ilk standing up in 2024 he heavily contributed to a massive(r) - it's not a word but it should be - Labour majority.
That fucker could be a future Prime Minister if he really wants it.
hash tag
Reaching out
Seeing an opportunity
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Depends on whether they get to vote. Entirely possible the 1992 Committee could just change the rules to allow MPs only to vote.
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Why?
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
Because they are monsters
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Hmmmm..?
Silas Loom
Advanced. Forthright. Signifficant.
No. Surely not. That’s a matter the leader would need to get approved by the membership, isn’t it?
I read somewhere that one suggestion is to allow the members to create a shortlist on which MPs could vote.
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
Ah, the Phillips style of delivery?
moochedit
Mr Mooched It
Found this. Should be in there somewhere.
andysays
Love and solidarity
Silas Loom
Advanced. Forthright. Signifficant.
That change to the constitution would itself require a ballot of all members under Schedule 9 of the document moochedit posted. There is a lot of leeway for the 1922 to decide on what basis a choice is provided to the members, but the constitution makes it clear that the members have to chose.
Bluntly, the members would have to be given something in return. Otherwise why should they agree?
Schedule 9 is brief, and it’s right at the end - I can’t copy from the pdf but maybe someone with a whizzier browser can.
moochedit
Mr Mooched It
Cheers.there should also be a bit somewhere on how to amend the constitution (if they wanted to). Can't be arsed to search it right now. Edit - silas has done it
andysays
Love and solidarity
The 1922 Committee can, and frequently has, changed the rules around which candidates the membership gets to choose between, but they can't cut them out completely.
bemused
Well-Known Member
Apparently, according to the press, Badenoch is a favourite. It's hard to judge on her past media appearances where the Tories were playing the silly culture wars so I'm not sure what her real views are. She seems smart but also, for me, gets rather annoyed when interviewed. The Tories have a thin bench.
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
Not really sure where the Tories can go. Not really much difference between them and Labour on the "left" or Reform on the far, fascist right.
I could celebrate the end of the Tories if it meant their votes didn't just go to Reform instead.
I could celebrate the end of the Tories if it meant their votes didn't just go to Reform instead.
It means they're leadership candidates. One of them introduced the Rwanda policy, the other has a rabid hatred of trans people and they're both on the wingnut end of the party.
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
It’s great if they are, they’re so close they’ll have to tear chunks out of each other. And if they win they move further right and even further from power.
Bingoman
Well-Known Member
Really is that the best they can come up,with... oh hang on
MrCurry
differently unable
From a personal perspective I would love to see Patel or Braverman win it. You just know they are going to let their authoritarian instincts run free and take the Tories so far to the right they will not be back in power for another 20 years.
Bookies seem to have singled out Badenoch as an early front runner though.
Bookies seem to have singled out Badenoch as an early front runner though.
klang
klang
Don't you think you and those around you would be affected by authoritarian right wing policy shaping, even if it's done by an opposition party?
MrCurry
differently unable
I think everyone would be affected positively by the tories becoming less relevant and less electable, and after a big loss they are more vulnerable to the kind of infighting which could lead to their longer term decline into irrelevance. It’s far more likely to happen if they move to the right than if they stay closer to the centre imho
klang
klang
I think it depends mainly on labour's performance and how they deal with political opponents over the next few years.
Tory infighting helps and is always funny to watch, but a re-shape with the help of media launching a major anti-labour campaign is not out of the question.
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