Tory Leadership contest 2022

[Pickman's model]

Cat Fan bullshitted about "attacks", "tones" and "angry posts" when this poster mentioned learning from others.

You jumped in and yelled about bullying.

This is your m.o. from previous incarnations.

Cat Fan also claimed they were called "scum" and a "scab". This was proven to be bullshit as well.

Neither of ye are covering yourself in glory.

They're covering themselves in something tho

 

[existentialist]

And of course if they're both saying the same shit, there's no brownie points in it for either of them anyway.

Except the implicit brownie points of avoiding have your opponent point at you and say "He/she wants the country to be filled with smelly migrants"...

 

[Artaxerxes]

wow please can you take this beef to feedback forum or something? This thread is for another car crash. Please.

I don't think I'm being offensive or a bully by asking you that.

I'm not board 'royalty', but I can afford a Twix occasionally.

Peace

Twix? Clearly to bourgeoisie for this forum.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

Plus I understand the dynamic here a bit better as well.

In your 28 posts to date you've changed your mind 3 times about who is going to win the leadership election, you've moaned that your - no doubt vitally important - link was subject to moderation and you've opined with some stridency on what you perceive to the flaws on this forum.

I'd say your claim to "understand the dynamics here" is something of a stretch.

 

[kabbes]

I’m ever more convinced that the vote any vote should be taken away from anyone above 50 years old and given to children instead.

There goes pension benefits

 

[planetgeli]

I’m ever more convinced that the vote any vote should be taken away from anyone above 50 years old and given to children instead.

 

[Pickman's model]

Plus I understand the dynamic here a bit better as well.

But you can't point to any actual evidence that cat fan named me bully, contrary to your claim.

 

[Chilli.s]

I've started doing this already and am just waiting for the rest of you to catch up:


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I too have engaged what I like to call "advisors" for use with the complicated process of engagement with democracy. Not sure that its entirely legal, but fuck it

 

[Elpenor]

I’m ever more convinced that the vote any vote should be taken away from anyone above 50 years old and given to children instead.

May as well give the decision making to Paul the Octopus

 

[Boris Sprinkler]

why dont we just bully wow?

 

[Pickman's model]

I’m ever more convinced that the vote any vote should be taken away from anyone above 50 years old and given to children instead.

There speaks a woman who has never seen a teenage William Hague addressing tory party conference or a young Jacob Rees mogg opining about money

 

[Pickman's model]

why dont we just bully wow?

It's wicked to mock the afflicted

 

[Pickman's model]

May as well give the decision making to Paul the Octopus

Did they die or escape?

 

[bimble]

May as well give the decision making to Paul the Octopus

Paul would be fine, he'd do a better job than the great british public.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

why dont we just bully wow?

We let his words speak for themselves.

 

[Pickman's model]

Paul would be fine, he'd do a better job than the great british public.

It's really telling that your answer to people being given a choice between a shitty stick or a stick covered in vomit isn't to say let's have some nice sticks too but let's make children decide and not people over 50

 

[bimble]

It's really telling that your answer to people being given a shitty stick or a stick covered in vomit isn't to sat let's have some nice sticks but let's make children decide and not people over 50

Nice sticks with ice cream on would be great, but when the sticks are primarily competing for the votes of old people they just are shittier, as evidenced by this ridiculous election where they are both claiming they don't care about the climate and really want to send immigrants to Rwanda.

 

[Pickman's model]

Nice sticks with ice cream on would be great, but when the sticks are primarily competing for the votes of old people they just are shittier, as evidenced by this ridiculous election where they are both claiming they don't care about the climate and really want to send immigrants to Rwanda.

Any young people potentially eligible to vote in this election are unlikely to be British equivalents of greta thunberg and more likely to be junior versions of Hague and Rees mogg. But you didn't limit your proposal to this election but said all elections: and its at the elections where the winner of this contest will test public opinion thar there should be some nicer sticks. The answer isn't disenfranchise 40% of the population on some crude metric of age but to spread democracy far wider, not only in broadening participation to younger people but also extending it much further within the economy and society, giving people a proper 'right to the city' to use lefebvre's term, proper involvement in changes to and development of the environment in which people live and work. If more sticks were available at elections for mps and councillors, if business support and lobbying by the wealthy or media was banned or strictly curtailed, then Labour and the tories, and other parties, would need to work harder and be more inventive to win people's votes. I don't think the Tories could survive any competition in which they didn't have the support the preponderance of the national press.

 

[JimW]

Even tongue-in-cheek anti-democracy is no-no-no politics, young bimble. Such thinking proceeds from and leads to all sorts of grievous errors by a commodius vicus of recirculation.

 

[Lucy Fur]

.ETA fat finger phone post. Soz

 

[kabbes]

Maybe the electorate for any given election should only be the people who don’t live in the affected area. Only non-British people vote in the British election, only non-US people vote in the US election and so on. Interesting thought experiment as to what kind of world it would produce.

 

[bimble]

I think Russia’s foreign minister recently walked off a stage somewhere saying that he felt there was no point speaking with Miss Truss. So he’d probably vote for her.

 

[emanymton]

I'm in favour of age restrictions on voting. I think it should be limited to people born the exact time I was, and who also happen to have my name.

I am sure this is a plan we can all get behind.

 

[SpookyFrank]

That's Sunak's only game plan now; negate every pitch from the favourite and just hope that she is so obviously shite when under the scrutiny of campaigning that increasing numbers react to his 'electable competence'.

I love how 'have some actual ideas for sorting the country out' is not even an option worth considering.

 

[MickiQ]

I'm in favour of age restrictions on voting. I think it should be limited to people born the exact time I was, and who also happen to have my name.

I am sure this is a plan we can all get behind.

Morporkians are, however, in no doubt that Vetinari is firmly in charge of the city; the political system of Ankh-Morpork is described as "One Man, One Vote", in which Vetinari is the Man, and he has the Vote.
-- Terry Pratchett

 

[andysays]

Paul would be fine, he'd do a better job than the great british public.

I'm curious what sort of job he'd do of drawing a spunking cock on a ballot paper, TBH

 

[planetgeli]

Even tongue-in-cheek anti-democracy is no-no-no politics, young bimble. Such thinking proceeds from and leads to all sorts of grievous errors by a commodius vicus of recirculation.

You are a person who managed the opening line of Finnegans Wake and I claim my 40 Yuan.

 

[maomao]

I'm curious what sort of job he'd do of drawing a spunking cock on a ballot paper, TBH

Spiecesist. He would draw a spermatophore depositing hectocotylus.

 

[Boris Sprinkler]

I mean reading through the beef its really apparent what is going on and whom is desperate for oxygen.
Truss has no brains and Sunak has no brains but lots of money.

 

[Dystopiary]

Yes, fight with each other more. This is what I like to see.