Tory Leadership contest 2022

[two sheds]

Has she mentioned pork or cheese yet?

 

[eatmorecheese]

What the fuck is this shit about earrings?

ETA: Oh, right. Found out now. What a bunch of clowns.

 

[Nine Bob Note]

Sunak does consistently interrupt and talk over her.

I would if I were debating with Liz Truss. I’d loudly order a fucking pizza.

 

[SpookyFrank]

I'm actually starting to feel a little bit sorry for Liz. She's so so so far out of her depth against this guy. It's not just her policies that are fucked, she can't actually communicate like a human being. She also keeps calling Faisal Islam "Feisel". These are basic things she should have rehearsed.

She'll still win though. The gammons don't care about competence or even basic coherence, so long as the candidate is suitably cold and vicious.

 

[krtek a houby]

She'll still win though. The gammons don't care about competence or even basic coherence, so long as the candidate is suitably cold and vicious.

And dense

 

[SpookyFrank]

And dense

Yes I wonder if stupidity isn't a selling point. Your standard tory is not very bright after all, and tends to react with distrust and anger to those who have suspicious and inexplicable powers like stringing a sentence together, or basic empathy.

 

[Petcha]

And dense

Yes. She really does come across as not very smart.

 

[brogdale]

She'll still win though. The gammons don't care about competence or even basic coherence, so long as the candidate is suitably cold and vicious.

I think that she is genuinely attempting to offer members a new iteration of the tories' ideological determination to govern a consolidator state. Sunak represents the old order of using misplaced 'household budget'/balancing the books justifications for austerity/slashing the size of the state, whereas Truss appears not even to be bothering with that 'justification'; she promises the ideological purity to slash the state even if that means more public debt.

 

[Duncan2]

That was a gut punch for Truss not being able to say whether Johnson would be welcome in her cabinet.Sunak wiped the floor with her tbf

 

[SpookyFrank]

I think that she is genuinely attempting to offer members a new iteration of the tories' ideological determination to govern a consolidator state. Sunak represents the old order of using misplaced 'household budget'/balancing the books justifications for austerity/slashing the size of the state, whereas Truss appears not even to be bothering with that 'justification'; she promises the ideological purity to slash the state even if that means more public debt.

There's no state left to slash. Hospitals and schools will start closing for lack of staff and resources within a year as it is.

 

[brogdale]

There's no state left to slash. Hospitals and schools will start closing for lack of staff and resources within a year as it is.

I fear the privatisations will gather pace under the new leader.

 

[belboid]

Tory voters think truss won the debate, 47 to 38. Fucking weirdos

 

[Pickman's model]

I fear the privatisations will gather pace under the new leader.

They've found the one politician who might make Johnson look by comparison statesmanlike

 

[krtek a houby]

They've found the one politician who might make Johnson look by comparison statesmanlike

That's quite a feat, when you think about it

How do they do it?

 

[Pickman's model]

That's quite a feat, when you think about it

How do they do it?

I wish I knew

 

[Kevbad the Bad]

Climate change. Neither one has got the faintest fucking idea. No apparent concept of the scale of the crisis. No solutions other than more of the same. Thank Christ we have a Labour leader who has all the answers. ( Joke )

 

[Wilf]

Tory voters think truss won the debate, 47 to 38. Fucking weirdos

A lot can happen, all the usual qualifiers but... fucking hell, if they think she won that, she's home and dry.

 

[Wilf]

That was a gut punch for Truss not being able to say whether Johnson would be welcome in her cabinet.Sunak wiped the floor with her tbf

Kieth will be piping up soon to say he'd welcome both of them into his cabinet..

 

[krtek a houby]

A lot can happen, all the usual qualifiers but... fucking hell, if they think she won that, she's home and dry.

Sad thing is, she probably is and she probably thinks she is

 

[two sheds]

"Truss and Sunak trade blows in acrimonious first TV debate"​

This is what we like to hear

 

[wow]

This tedious, vexatious poster needs to be given the heave-ho; they're spoiling a lively and topical thread.

I’m sorry you feel that way, and I understand why. Is there a way you can mute or ignore my posts so the particular beef I currently have with these other folks doesn’t intrude on your enjoyment of this otherwise vibrant conversation?

Cat Fan bullshitted about "attacks", "tones" and "angry posts" when this poster mentioned learning from others.

You jumped in and yelled about bullying.

This is your m.o. from previous incarnations.

Cat Fan also claimed they were called "scum" and a "scab". This was proven to be bullshit as well.

Neither of ye are covering yourself in glory.

“Bullshitted”
“Jumped in”
“Yelled”
“M.O.”
“Previous incarnations”
“Claimed”
“Proven”
“Bullshit”
“Neither of ye”

Yeah, I mean…it beats me why Cat Fan feels “attacked” by “tones” from “angry posts”…

Check your attitude.

This is a silly thing to say, quite apart from the fact that, to many people here, "do your own research" sounds like the oft-repeated refrain of conspiraloons who expect - as you appear to be doing - to make unfounded claims and then insist that everyone else does the work of proving the claim.

It's a fairly universal rule of debate that if you're making a claim, it's on you to back it up. Otherwise, people will just ignore your claim. Over to you...

Hi Existentialist.

As far as I can tell, this isn’t “debate club”.

My replies to this thread are solely questioning the language used by some members here against another member.

There is a very specific reason why I say “do your own research”, which I’m happy to share privately.

Otherwise, simply ignore my posts.

Have a nice evening either way.

wow

 

[elbows]

“Freedom is a price worth paying”

Surprisingly honest

I didnt watch tonights debate for very long so thats pretty much the only bit I saw that stuck in my mind. Truss is so shit at trying to use this sort of rhetoric and fucked that one up totally. And unlike many politicians when they mess up their words, she often doesnt even notice that what she said was all pear shaped, so offers no correction. Not that it seems to matter since nobody else involved in the proceedings seems interested in calling these fuckups out.

 

[petee]

I've now got an earworm of that to the tune of 'My Bonnie Lies Over the Ocean'.

 

[krtek a houby]

I’m sorry you feel that way, and I understand why. Is there a way you can mute or ignore my posts so the particular beef I currently have with these other folks doesn’t intrude on your enjoyment of this otherwise vibrant conversation?


“Bullshitted”
“Jumped in”
“Yelled”
“M.O.”
“Previous incarnations”
“Claimed”
“Proven”
“Bullshit”
“Neither of ye”

Yeah, I mean…it beats me why Cat Fan feels “attacked” by “tones” from “angry posts”…

Check your attitude.



Hi Existentialist.

As far as I can tell, this isn’t “debate club”.

My replies to this thread are solely questioning the language used by some members here against another member.

There is a very specific reason why I say “do your own research”, which I’m happy to share privately.

Otherwise, simply ignore my posts.

Have a nice evening either way.

wow

Nice of you to take the time, but you're still a shit stirrer

You've been proved a wrong 'un but by all means, carry on

 

[wow]

You've been proved a wrong 'un but by all means, carry on

I’m yet to see any proof against me.

Against you, though…

No they don't.

I suffer from anxiety and normally stay away from social media precisely for that reason.

My experience on this thread has been that I've been picked on for my political beliefs. Ok, fair enough it's a politics thread, but I was genuinely upset by some of the comments and I thought they were uncalled for.

Again I don't expect the people involved will care because they're basically trolls hiding behind anonymity. And now they'll double down on it by calling me out for being a snowflake or not having a sense of humour or whatever. I know how this goes.

I was prepared to drop it but now feeling angry again because you're picking on someone else for the crime of calling you out on your behaviour.

You know who you are

Are you uncomfortable for being called out on being a bully?

It was highly condescending of you tbh so I did take offence.

Classic bully behaviour is to deny that bullying took place.

You denying her feelings?

 

[krtek a houby]

Nice of you to take the time, but you're still a shit stirrer


I’m yet to see any proof against me.

Against you, though…







What a nice guy. Let’s not meet.

Also, in other weasel behaviour: Someone who posted a picture of “Bully” from the 80’s darts quiz “Bullseye” in answer to one of Cat Fan’s numerous calls for help against feeling bullied has deleted their post.

I think because a “certain person” who liked it subsequently regretted liking it.

…and that’s something I can’t prove at the moment.

Cheers,
Wow

No "proof", whatsoever.

Just a poster who's politics were called out, and then claimed all manner of falsehoods.

Try harder.

 

[Smangus]

I’m yet to see any proof against me.

Against you, though…







You denying her feelings?

God you're boring, just fuck off.

 

[wow]

No "proof", whatsoever.

Just a poster who's politics were called out, and then claimed all manner of falsehoods.

Try harder.

Falsehoods?

List them.

 

[krtek a houby]

Am denying the poster's accusations which were found to be false, as shown upthread.

They felt hard done by, because the party they vote for aren't the good people they seem to think they are

 

[wow]

God you're boring, just fuck off.

Just ignore me if you don’t want to see my posts, mate