Tory Leadership contest 2022

[bimble]

i hate thinking about my own question and now i'm going to have to live with it
Crappest, most ridiculous, is probably Braverman, so go her for PM maybe.
great website though. Suella 4 Leader | Get Back on Track

 

[MickiQ]

I'm asking if people here have a preferred outcome, out of these 8 contenders (ghoulishness was just about this, my unappetising question).
Not sure what i'd do if i had to step in and choose who gets it out of these.

Other than possibly marty21's suggestion of Tum TuggingHisHat killing the other 7 in a survival game, No not really I don't really want any of them.

It occurs to me that it Badenoch wins and the Tangerine Turd gets back in the WH then their first meeting is going to be comedy gold

 

[kebabking]

I think Sunak is toast - if the non-loon section of the party want to avoid a Badenoch/Truss/Braverman PM, then they need to go for Mordaunt. She's the only one who stands a decent of beating any of those three once it goes out to the membership.

Of the eight, I'd prefer Tugendhat, but I see neither him or Hunt getting the membership vote.

 

[bimble]

Other than possibly marty21's suggestion of Tum TuggingHisHat killing the other 7 in a survival game, No not really I don't really want any of them.

It occurs to me that it Badenoch wins and the Tangerine Turd gets back in the WH then their first meeting is going to be comedy gold

well of course you don't really want any of them!
I'm offering you a tray of shit sandwiches and you're supposed to try to pick the least worst.

But why would Badenoch & Trump not just run into each others arms delightedly. Because they would. She's a bit like a non-stupid Candace Owens.

 

[weltweit]

I wouldn't underestimate the torys chances of getting it disasterously wrong, while they are quite ruthless in knifing their leaders in the back or front even, they have also a history of electing leaders who went on to lose general elections.

 

[killer b]

I wouldn't underestimate the torys chances of getting it disasterously wrong, while they are quite ruthless in knifing their leaders in the back or front even, they have also a history of electing leaders who went on to lose general elections.

their history of electing winning leaders is much better than any of the other parties tbf

 

[nottsgirl]

I think Sunak is going to win.

 

[xenon]

while truss has slipped in the Con Home rankings, she did just fine in the Opinium poll

Urgh, one for the words I actually hate thread. (Opinium.)

 

[weltweit]

Apart from opening up new pork markets I know zilch about Truss.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

I think Sunak is going to win.

He's not promising tax cuts the second he walks into number 10, so he won't.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

Badenoch will be able, and urged, to unleash wave after wave of culture war wedge issues (to distract from the slash and burn) and they'll delight in the "You can't say it's racist or sexist, she's a black woman! Ha! You're the real racist" they can wheel out in their defence.

I watched Badenoch’s campaign launch.

What was genuinely striking about her was the absolute cast iron and zealous adherence to neo-liberal first principles: the indefatigable faith in the free market and a determination to sweep away anything that gets in its way, the obsession with smashing up the state and collective institutions and the unshakeable commitment to ignoring all of the glaring evidence of following that approach for the last 45 years and simply demanding that it’s doubled down.

Not only did her entire analysis fly in the face of the stark economic realities of the current crisis (and the approach to tackling it being adopted by other countries) but - for the candidate of the now/the future - it all felt oddly retro, and was a speech that could have been delivered by Friedman, Thatcher or even the Mont Pelerin Society in 1947!

The culture war stuff is the least of the derangement

 

[Wilf]

Badenoch is very interesting in a terrifying way. I can't see her winning, but she scares me the most.

Yes, this- came to the thread to say summat like that. Completely mad in a sounding clear and sane way. Horrible.

 

[two sheds]

Apart from opening up new pork markets I know zilch about Truss.

I don't watch the news so that vacant grin and wait for riotous applause that didn't come is the only clip I've seen of her.

 

[Wilf]

I watched Badenoch’s campaign launch.

What was genuinely striking about her was the absolute cast iron and zealous adherence to neo-liberal first principles: the indefatigable faith in the free market and a determination to sweep away anything that gets in its way, the obsession with smashing up the state and collective institutions and the unshakeable commitment to ignoring all of the glaring evidence of following that approach for the last 45 years and simply demanding that it’s doubled down.

Not only did her entire analysis fly in the face of the stark economic realities of the current crisis (and the approach to tackling it being adopted by other countries) but - for the candidate of the now/the future - it all felt oddly retro, and was a speech that could have been delivered by Friedman, Thatcher or even the Mont Pelerin Society in 1947!

The culture war stuff is the least of the derangement

This too, very much. Like listening to some fringe ideologues explaining how thatcher should really behave.

 

[Pickman's model]

I don’t think they’re all ‘thick as pigshit’, that’s false comfort.

They have some low cunning but they are both stupid and ignorant

 

[Louis MacNeice]

I watched Badenoch’s campaign launch.

What was genuinely striking about her was the absolute cast iron and zealous adherence to neo-liberal first principles: the indefatigable faith in the free market and a determination to sweep away anything that gets in its way, the obsession with smashing up the state and collective institutions and the unshakeable commitment to ignoring all of the glaring evidence of following that approach for the last 45 years and simply demanding that it’s doubled down.

Not only did her entire analysis fly in the face of the stark economic realities of the current crisis (and the approach to tackling it being adopted by other countries) but - for the candidate of the now/the future - it all felt oddly retro, and was a speech that could have been delivered by Friedman, Thatcher or even the Mont Pelerin Society in 1947!

The culture war stuff is the least of the derangement

Preparing for Power: it's Friedman meets Furedi in the love match/mash up from hell!

Cheers - Louis MacNeicde

 

[weltweit]

I don't watch the news so that vacant grin and wait for riotous applause that didn't come is the only clip I've seen of her.

I do watch the news and it is the only impression I have of her

 

[SpookyFrank]

Apart from opening up new pork markets I know zilch about Truss.

Zilch, coincidentally, is exactly how much Liz Truss knows about anything at all.

 

[danny la rouge]

Apart from opening up new pork markets I know zilch about Truss.

She thinks it’s a disgrace that we import so much cheese.

 

[two sheds]

Zilch, coincidentally, is exactly how much Liz Truss knows about anything at all.

Stop ignoring pork markets

 

[brogdale]

She thinks it’s a disgrace that we import so much cheese.

And that we import so much Royal family!

 

[maomao]

She thinks it’s a disgrace that we import so much cheese.

It's embarassing that so much of it is for me.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

Preparing for Power: it's Friedman meets Furedi in the love match/mash up from hell!

Cheers - Louis MacNeicde

Good point re the RCP/Tory right nexus.

The main feeling I took from it was just how implausible her narrative and remedies are. Blaming the state and demanding cuts: to a state that has been cut by record levels since 2010, and which bailed the banks out in 2008 and bailed the country out during the pandemic just lacks any credibility in peoples lived experience and collective memory.

 

[brogdale]

So, farewell Team Shapps.

 

[steveo87]

And that we import so much Royal family!

Hypocrisy in the Tory Party?!

 

[quiet guy]

So, farewell Team Shapps.

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The only 3 votes he could be sure of

 

[Cat Fan]

This is a bit ghoulish. Not who do you reckon will win but who do you want to be the winner out of these 8?
Avidly watching the gruesome talent show without any preference on outcome is even weirder though.

The best for me would probably be Hunt, both a pushover for Labour and unlikely to wreck anything before the next GE. I don't think he has a snowball's chance though.

 

[Calamity1971]

It would appear that there's a fair amount of appealing to the lowest common denominator going on:

He did a u turn within a couple of hours of saying that. Even some Tories were apparently unhappy with it!

 

[WhyLikeThis]

 

[spitfire]

Judging by the campaign launches I've just seen they'll all have covid by this time next week.