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patman post said:
Get over it. Anne Marie is middle aged and brought up in the sleepy West Country — probably in a town where the local store has nigger brown dyes, cotton and fabric. At least she didn't call someone a frowned-on word and, as far as we know, she doesn't discriminate against non-Whites in her daily life. Let's save slagging off for the Far Right who actively want to divide society and kick out non-Whites...
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But we barely even got to know you. :(
 
ViolentPanda said:
They're careening from clusterfuck to clusterfuck. It'd be beautiful to watch, if the implications weren't so harmful for ordinary people.
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I couldn't agree with you more!
The silver lining to that cloud in turn being that they'll mess things up badly enough to render themselves unelectable for a generation
 
Poot said:
Just... Just... How can you be saying that word, out loud, and NOT be thinking 'hold on a moment, this can't possibly be acceptable, can it? This phrase probably has an awful lot of baggage even if I'm not entirely sure what that baggage is because I am a Tory and therefore out of touch'.

Personally I don't even think it was an accident. She knew what she was saying.
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Yes Poot it's not just the word nigger in this instance for me...it's the expression, the context...she knows what it means and was comfortable saying it. How long before these fucking old colonials die off?
 
patman post said:
Get over it. Anne Marie is middle aged and brought up in the sleepy West Country — probably in a town where the local store has nigger brown dyes, cotton and fabric. At least she didn't call someone a frowned-on word and, as far as we know, she doesn't discriminate against non-Whites in her daily life. Let's save slagging off for the Far Right who actively want to divide society and kick out non-Whites...
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How about fuck off you pathetic apologist? Yours is the kind of 'get over it' papering over the FACTS that keeps these arseholes in power and voted for. The far right are created by/nurtured by these ideas. FFS.
 
killer b said:
The chancellor has just announced to the house that they'll fund women from NI having abortions on the mainland UK.

This is how it's going to be now isn't it?
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Yup, but it offers Labour a glorious opportunity for untold mischief. Simply draw up a list of policy issues where the gap between the DUP and the Tories socially liberal wing is at it's widest - which won't be hard, and crowbar amendments on them into every bill that goes forward, which is exactly what Stella Creasy has done here. She's actually forced a major change in government policy just to dig them out of a hole
 
patman post said:
Get over it. Anne Marie is middle aged and brought up in the sleepy West Country — probably in a town where the local store has nigger brown dyes, cotton and fabric. At least she didn't call someone a frowned-on word and, as far as we know, she doesn't discriminate against non-Whites in her daily life. Let's save slagging off for the Far Right who actively want to divide society and kick out non-Whites...
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I think you've just established a new world record for the distance by which a point is missed
 
Actually this Patman posting style is all too familiar isn't it? Now what is his name again...

Starts alphabet....

Frances is that you?

Or maybe it's BnP... ffs now I come to think of it the list is endless.
 
Rutita1 said:
Actually this Patman posting style is all too familiar isn't it? Now what is his name again...

Starts alphabet....

Frances is that you?

Or maybe it's BnP... ffs now I come to think of it the list is endless.
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It's not Frances. He was a keen cyclist ;)
 
patman post said:
Get over it. Anne Marie is middle aged and brought up in the sleepy West Country — probably in a town where the local store has nigger brown dyes, cotton and fabric. At least she didn't call someone a frowned-on word and, as far as we know, she doesn't discriminate against non-Whites in her daily life. Let's save slagging off for the Far Right who actively want to divide society and kick out non-Whites...
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As another middle aged Devonian, no, let's not. Whilst we're talking dyes, let's go for in the wool racist shall we?
 
patman post said:
Get over it. Anne Marie is middle aged and brought up in the sleepy West Country — probably in a town where the local store has nigger brown dyes, cotton and fabric. At least she didn't call someone a frowned-on word and, as far as we know, she doesn't discriminate against non-Whites in her daily life. Let's save slagging off for the Far Right who actively want to divide society and kick out non-Whites...
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You fucking liberal!
 
8den said:
It's such a odd awkward phrase that's just not in common parlance, how the fuck could she have accidentally utter it.
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this is how these people talk when the PC police aren't around to ruin everything for them

Its the East India Club, our place for our people where one can speak like we-are-all-m8s here
Poot said:
Just... Just... How can you be saying that word, out loud, and NOT be thinking 'hold on a moment, this can't possibly be acceptable, can it? This phrase probably has an awful lot of baggage even if I'm not entirely sure what that baggage is because I am a Tory and therefore out of touch'.

Personally I don't even think it was an accident. She knew what she was saying.
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It was thought to be said in the rarefied atmosphere of one of their shitty clubs. Possibly not done reflexively but as a signifier to the whole 'now the recorders are turned off lets say something naughty'. Or just racist arrogance. Maybe a mix of the two. It wasn't so long ago that the tory milieu was loving the 'hang mandela' stuff really.
 
Rutita1 said:
How about fuck off you pathetic apologist? Yours is the kind of 'get over it' papering over the FACTS that keeps these arseholes in power and voted for. The far right are created by/nurtured by these ideas. FFS.
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Born in Dalton, educated in Guyana and Jamaica because Mum (a nurse in the NHS) saw the way things were going in Hackney — that's why I tend to only get up tight about such things when they really matter..
 
No chance of a by-election. She'd need to resign her seat and that isn't gonna happen

Even if she did - 17,000 majority. Labour and Lib Dems both on around 11,000 (Lib Dems held it before 2010 when it was part of the larger Teignbridge constituency). Labour vote jumped from less than 5,000 last month. It'd take a big tactical swing to remove the Tories
 
JTG said:
Fuck off

Love from "the sleepy West Country"
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A pity that this forum seems to attract so many immature posters who seem to have just learned a four letter word which they delight in using when mamma's not listening. Does debate ever figure...?
 
JTG said:
No chance of a by-election. She'd need to resign her seat and that isn't gonna happen

Even if she did - 17,000 majority. Labour and Lib Dems both on around 11,000 (Lib Dems held it before 2010 when it was part of the larger Teignbridge constituency). Labour vote jumped from less than 5,000 last month. It'd take a big tactical swing to remove the Tories
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I've heard someone say this phrase by accident before, it doesn't seem that uncommon of a mistake to make.

Oddly after I heard the guy say it (he knew striaghtaway he'd made a huge gaft) the phrase stuck in my heard for days afterwords. No idea why.
 
patman post said:
A pity that this forum seems to attract so many immature posters who seem to have just learned a four letter word which they delight in using when mamma's not listening. Does debate ever figure...?
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It also seems to attract posters who airily dismiss a highly charged racial epithet used by an elected official as 'not a frowned-on' word... Where exactly is the use of 'nigger' not frowned upon? I'm sure a mature debater such as yourself could dig up a totally non-specious and rock-solid example... So go ahead.
 
ska invita said:
Thats got to be a firing offence surely?
First by-election on its way?
Though it looks like a safe tory seat
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Agatha Christie wrote a book called "Seven Little Tories". Sadly, it's not called that anymore because the PC brigade made them change the name. Anyway, it's about a Conservative and government with a majority of seven and every day one of the Tory MP's is forced to to resign as the result of of some verbal gaffe or moral lapse. I have been the end of the the government falls and is replaced by a Labour one led by a besandled radical. I'm sure that's a how it went.
 
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