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Tory Death Spiral

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Full on gloating from Osborne, especially Heseltine who certainly has a way with words. Corbyn's interview goes very well.
 
Cometh the hour, cometh the man

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I don't discount awful Brexit negotiations giving them a second wind if they can blame the shit place we end up on the EU's desire to punish us. It could be their Falklands moment.
 
I don't discount awful Brexit negotiations giving them a second wind if they can blame the shit place we end up on the EU's desire to punish us. It could be their Falklands moment.
Now that you should mention that...

I wonder if Argentina are watching developments with interest.
 
I'm not sure how this is classed as a u-turn?

they signalled a u turn on the public sector pay cap - strongly hinting that it would be lifted. Then - a few hours later - presumably after some strong words from phillip hammond - they start briefing that the pay cap is staying afterall. A "W" turn in fact.
 
they signalled a u turn on the public sector pay cap - strongly hinting that it would be lifted. Then - a few hours later - presumably after some strong words from phillip hammond - they start briefing that the pay cap is staying afterall. A "W" turn in fact.

As I read that article, the policy hadn't changed, merely saying they 'may' look at it. I've no doubt they'll relax it, but I very much doubt they'll do it until well after the Queen's speech as not to hand Corbyn a victory.

Tis the oddball nature of politics.
 
MPs vote to reject Labour's amendment to the Queen's speech calling for public sector pay cap to be lifted, by 323 votes to 309. All 10 DUP voted this down too. £1Billion well spent!
 
MPs vote to reject Labour's amendment to the Queen's speech calling for public sector pay cap to be lifted, by 323 votes to 309. All 10 DUP voted this down too. £1Billion well spent!

They would have won that vote without the ten DUP seats, wasn't that well spent :)
 
As I read that article, the policy hadn't changed, merely saying they 'may' look at it. I've no doubt they'll relax it, but I very much doubt they'll do it until well after the Queen's speech as not to hand Corbyn a victory.

Tis the oddball nature of politics.

everyone else but you is seeing this as a double u-turn carried out in the space of an afternoon. Revealing a government at war with itself and being blown by events.
 
everyone else but you is seeing this as a double u-turn carried out in the space of an afternoon. Revealing a government at war with itself and being blown by events.

I just think to do a u-turn you have to state a change in policy and then reverse it. That article doesn't point to any change in policy - where is anyone from the government saying they'll scrap the pay cap?

I'm sure they will scrap it, at that point that would be a u-turn. IMHO
 
I just think to do a u-turn you have to state a change in policy and then reverse it. That article doesn't point to any change in policy - where is anyone from the government saying they'll scrap the pay cap?

I'm sure they will scrap it, at that point that would be a u-turn. IMHO

they gave a briefing which strongly hinted that they were going to reverse the pay cap - and the media reported it as such. Then they gave another briefing a few hours later flatly contradicting the earlier briefing by saying they had no plans to reverse the pay cap. Causing much derision.
 
some shit from the house of commoners live was on telly the other day, asking her shit, some irish geezer asked something and some G i dunno who it was heckled 'careful that cheque doesnt bounce' it was quality

politics is well quality atm it's a total shithouse :cool: well worth a watch just for the quality burns
 
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