Urban75 Home About Offline BrixtonBuzz Contact

Tory Death Spiral

they gave a briefing which strongly hinted that they were going to reverse the pay cap - and the media reported it as such. Then they gave another briefing a few hours later flatly contradicting the earlier briefing by saying they had no plans to reverse the pay cap. Causing much derision.

Which person said they were going to reverse the pay cap?
 
650.jpg
 
What's the chance of a vote of no confidence etc in next few months now then?

not much. the dup would have to vote against the government - and they've been bought off - for now. It will take a few defections and by-election defeats.
 
No more amendments to Queens speech after today?
its been voted on and passed now, so thats all she wrote for now. It remains to be seen how much loyalty 1bn gets you and how much the members of her own party are willing to back. Blood in the water and when ye swim with sharks...
 
Actually I don't think the QS has been voted on, they are voting for the amendments first (though none will get up and the QS will).
 
What's the odds of a public service strike over this?

Summer of discontent... govt collapse?
 
What's the odds of a public service strike over this?

Summer of discontent... govt collapse?
It'll take more than a strike. But it's interesting to see how many discussions on the state of play happen to mention some aspect of the possibility of civil disorder...
 
not much. the dup would have to vote against the government - and they've been bought off - for now. It will take a few defections and by-election defeats.

For the Tories to make headway, they're going to need to run a three-line whip on every single vote on anything they want the House to pass. Tory backbenchers don't like three-line whips. They don't like being told what to do.
 
Actually I don't think the QS has been voted on, they are voting for the amendments first (though none will get up and the QS will).
Correct - the QS is Thursday, or possibly Friday.
But today was quite simply an epic clusterfuck for the Tories. Truly horrendous
 
They're careening from clusterfuck to clusterfuck. It'd be beautiful to watch, if the implications weren't so harmful for ordinary people.

Yeah, they'll no doubt try and get as much through statutory instruments as possible to avoid too many votes. They will salt the fields if they can.
 
We're due a death or two in Tory-held seats :hmm:

Almost all the by-elections in the last Parliament were in Labour-held ones.

There must surely be the odd Tory MP who'll be incompetent enough to croak soon .... :p
 
Yeah, they'll no doubt try and get as much through statutory instruments as possible to avoid too many votes. They will salt the fields if they can.

It's quite annoying to me how many people remember the treasury note left by Brown's team ("there's no money left"), but don't recall how Major's people, from '94 on, when it became apparent they were going to get a hiding in '97, started salting the fields.
 
We're due a death or two in Tory-held seats :hmm:

Almost all the by-elections in the last Parliament were in Labour-held ones.

There must surely be the odd Tory MP who'll be incompetent enough to croak soon .... :p

trying to look up ages of mps - no joy. Nicolas Soames is 69 and a fat fucker though. Ken Clarke is 76 - smokes and drinks.
 
The chancellor has just announced to the house that they'll fund women from NI having abortions on the mainland UK.

This is how it's going to be now isn't it?
 
Back
Top Bottom