The rise of fascism in the US

[Yuwipi Woman]

I figured you were rounding (my maths chops are seriously rusty).

I was "guess-timating."

 

[8ball]

I was "guess-timating."

That’s pretty impressive.
I can only do it by multiplying numbers.

You are an analogue computer.

I think your guess may be optimistic, but I can’t get a good bead mentally on the effect of the Roe V Wade thing in reality compared to the other factors.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

You are an analogue computer.

I'm too old to be digital.

 

[Serge Forward]

Maths, schmaths... as I always say, there are 3 kinds of people: those who can count, and those who can't.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

I think your guess may be optimistic, but I can’t get a good bead mentally on the effect of the Roe V Wade thing in reality compared to the other factors.

If they take both the House and Senate, that will be bad enough. If they manage to get a supermajority, that will be worse. Then, they'll have the ability to override the President's vetos. They'll also have the ability to impeach Biden, regardless of if the facts. They'll probably even be able to convict and remove him. That's a longer shot, but not impossible.

 

[8ball]

If they take both the House and Senate, that will be bad enough. If they manage to get a supermajority, that will be worse. Then, they'll have the ability to override the President's vetos. They'll also have the ability to impeach Biden, regardless of if the facts. They'll probably even be able to convict and remove him. That's a longer shot, but not impossible.

Has Biden done anything impeachable?
(Is this the laptop thing)

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Has Biden done anything impeachable?
(Is this the laptop thing)

Not that I can see, but do you really think that will stop the Republicans if they get the power to do so?

(they might use the laptop thing, but I've heard the border situation specifically mentioned.)

 

[8ball]

Not that I can see, but do you really think that will stop the Republicans if they get the power to do so?

I’m not too sure how impeachment works tbf. Is the term just related to accusation?

I was amazed Trump slipped the net with that.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

I’m not too sure how impeachment works tbf. Is the term just related to accusation?

I was amazed Trump slipped the net with that.

The impeachment is the accusation. Evidence is presented and then the Senate votes either for or against conviction. If there's a conviction, the President is removed from office and the VP becomes the President.

 

[8ball]

The impeachment is the accusation. Evidence is presented and then the Senate votes either for or against conviction. If there's a conviction, the President is removed from office and the VP becomes the President.

In that case yeah, I guess they could impeach Biden. But if it’s purely the accusation, why can’t they impeach now? Does it come down to a vote in one of the Houses?

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

In that case yeah, I guess they could impeach Biden. But if it’s purely the accusation, why can’t they impeach now? Does it come down to a vote in one of the Houses?

Yes, they have to vote to decide if there's enough evidence to proceed to the trial phase. Then they assign a special prosecutor and they hold hearings. Then, the Senate votes and needs a supermajority to remove him from office.

 

[gosub]

I think and hope American politics is more complex than US is going to go fash, its potentially in the mix, granted
quite liked Seth Myers bit the other night




though Gutfeld was equally right in saying you don't have to fascist to be voting republican

 

[8ball]

Yes, they have to vote to decide if there's enough evidence to proceed to the trial phase. Then they assign a special prosecutor and they hold hearings. Then, the Senate votes and needs a supermajority to remove him from office.

It’s a long way from the scientific method.
Thanks for the info.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

The Republicans just picked up a seat in Guam. First time a Republican has held that seat since 1995.

MSN

This might be a long, ugly night.

 

[8ball]

The Republicans just picked up a seat in Guam. First time a Republican has held that seat since 1995.

MSN

This might be a long, ugly night.

That’s quite interesting - I’d lazily assumed Guam was Republican because of the massive military bases.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

That’s quite interesting - I’d lazily assumed Guam was Republican because of the massive military bases.

Military votes go to the soldier's home state by mail-in ballots.

 

[8ball]

Military votes go to the soldier's home state by mail-in ballots.

Thanks - this is v. educational.

(I wasn’t sure how many people on the base were locals - sounds like largely not)

 

[Nine Bob Note]

The BBC's just got its big font out, so shit must now be considered serious.

 

[8ball]

The BBC's just got its big font out, so shit must now be considered serious.

Think we should have a day or two til the really big font, shouldn’t we?

 

[Nine Bob Note]

Think we should have a day or two til the really big font, shouldn’t we?

Maybe they will break their long-established 1280px layout if shit gets really serious?

 

[8ball]

Maybe they will break their long-established 1280px layout if shit gets really serious?

That could be an issue for some browsers.

 

[8ball]

Hmm. Looking like President Desantis might be the best case scenario at this point.

 

[petee]

The BBC's just got its big font out, so shit must now be considered serious.

it's just after 9 here on the east coast and polls close at different times in different states.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Exit polls look like the Democrats are fucked in the mid term election. Is this the end of yanky democracy and the unstoppable rise of fascism?

I wouldn't say it's the end but a giant leap forward toward that, the death nail will be when Trump is re-elected in 2024.

 

[Zapp Brannigan]

Senate race is so close. The 2 swing states are Georgia and Pennsylvania; Penn is looking likely to go Democrat from Republican, but Georgia is on a knife edge at the moment and potentially going the other way.

The irony if Georgia ends up being about 11k votes, which got Mr Trump in such trouble before...

 

[strung out]

Pennsylvania has just been called for Democratic nominee John Fetterman - flipping it from the Republicans

 

[Jeff Robinson]

Glad to see the fascist party aren’t doing as well as expected

 

[a_chap]

What state are you in?

A state of despair, I would have thought...

 

[Karl Masks]

Please Jeebus, not Kari Lake

 

[strung out]

Looks like Lauren Boebert will be losing her seat to the Democrats in Colorado.