A lot of people are saying this is the end of the road for editorI thought he was banned for a week, was there a recount? Or maybe the banning machine was hacked...
A lot of people are saying this is the end of the road for editor
It's not looking good for the mods
English AleReal ale.
Glad we're allowed to call it that again. Had to refer to it as Eurozone Certified Digestible Ferment until recently . Made ordering it a chore I can tell you.English Ale
Tell me about it. After three or four, I always end up with my order being understood as Arizona Sugarfarm Testicular Cement, which doesn't have a pleasant bouquet.Glad we're allowed to call it that again. Had to refer to it as Eurozone Certified Digestible Ferment until recently . Made ordering it a chore I can tell you.
Better to be safe than sorry," Woods wrote in his tweet. "Make sure you have PLENTY of water, food, flashlights & batteries, candles, radio, 2nd Amendment supplies, & a plan to meet with leaders of your communities. Remember we only have 1 President at a time. Our leader is Donald Trump, not Biden."
Americans have purchased almost 17 million guns so far in 2020, more than in any other single full year on record, according to Small Arms Analytics & Forecasting, a research firm that tracks firearms.
Lin Wood encourages Trump supporters to plan for a wtshtf scenario
Pro-Trump Lawyer Lin Wood Urges Supporters to Stock Up on '2nd Amendment Su
"Remember we only have 1 President at a time," Wood wrote on Twitter. "Our leader is @realDonaldTrump, not Biden."www.newsweek.com
Gun sales always increase around now (Black Friday, gift giving at Christmas, hunting season etc) and always increase ahead of an election, but this time it’s more than normal.
Gun sales are soaring. And it's not just conservatives stocking up
A survey of firearm retailers found that 40% of customers this year were first-time gun buyers, up from 24% in years past. The largest increase of any demographic buying guns has been among Black Americans.www.latimes.com
And Covid is driving an increase in gun purchase too, it seems.
How the coronavirus led to the highest-ever spike in US gun sales
More than 2m guns were purchased in March and the FBI conducted 3.7m background checks.www.bbc.co.uk
It would be interesting to see some deeper stats on this stuff - is this Mr Bob Doesn't Have A Gun going out and buying one, or this Mrs Andrea Already Got Seven adding to her collection?
Gun ownership numbers stop mattering once you go passed one - you can only use one at a time, and guns are fairly reliable: your one gun isn't going to break, you don't 'need' a spare....
It would be interesting to see some deeper stats on this stuff - is this Mr Bob Doesn't Have A Gun going out and buying one, or this Mrs Andrea Already Got Seven adding to her collection?
Gun ownership numbers stop mattering once you go passed one - you can only use one at a time, and guns are fairly reliable: your one gun isn't going to break, you don't 'need' a spare....
It would be interesting to see some deeper stats on this stuff - is this Mr Bob Doesn't Have A Gun going out and buying one, or this Mrs Andrea Already Got Seven adding to her collection?
Gun ownership numbers stop mattering once you go passed one - you can only use one at a time, and guns are fairly reliable: your one gun isn't going to break, you don't 'need' a spare....
English RoseEnglish Ale
Good point, but my impression is that most of the "I have an entire wall covered in rifles" type of firearms owners are overwhelmingly white.
I read a thing a while back that said that one of the factors playing out now, in the unravelling of the Republican party, is the fact that for a long time now they have outsourced their messaging to the NRA and to Fox news (& similar).
Which hands those organisations a lot of power and sway over the republican electorate.
Lin Wood is just a wildcard at this point, he is absolutely not helping the republican party at all (telling people not to vote in georgia etc) but they can hardly do much about any of it having given up any attempt to talk directly to people about what if anything the party stands for years and years ago. Maybe that’s part of what made trump so powerful, he definitely did talk directly to his supporters, all day long.
English BreakfastEnglish Rose
Yes, I think that’s right.
And I think, in the South at least, Black people tend not to hold arms in the same way that white people do, not because they prefer not to but because to do so would be provocative. They need to keep their place. As I’ve said many times before, unless you've spent time in the South it’s hard to understand quite how racist and segregated it really is. And it’s not easy to convey it either.
A lot of those (whites) who have guns in their walls aren’t militia types though. Plenty of rural households have gun racks in plain view. I’ve been inside those homes and sometimes they’re not even locked up, just laid up on the rack. It’s so normal as to be commonplace. These are normal households, albeit Republican, which these days could be something different to the last time I was there....
And then there are people like my Trump supporting Facebook contact, who - despite not being familiar with guns as described above - went out and bought an assault rifle in defiance of the Federal ban in 1994, in order to excercise his “right” to have one. My father confiscated it and locked it away in his own house because he was concerned for the children in the house.
He took it out to show me and it was a strange and terrifying thing to handle. So much lighter and easy to manoeuvre than I would have supposed, and very clearly designed for only one thing to happen, for my finger to press the trigger. I’ve held guns before but this was much stranger. It felt.... slippery somehow. I handed it back immediately but I caught a glimpse of the seductive power of the thing
The sound you hear is me playing my tiny violin, Kemp has built his career around kissing Trump's arse so it must have been a surprise to Trump when Kemp suddenly showed some backbone.Georgia's got a Republican governor who Trump supported during his election campaign - in Trump's worldview, this means Brian Kemp should now do anything he wants, including doing whatever it takes to give him a win in the state. Trump can't abide disloyal subordinates so he'll be taking out some of his post-election frustration by destroying Kemp's political career.
This could go in any number of places on here but this one works, the whole 'election challenges' thing being a conspiracy theory with huge appeal.
The writer studies Qanon but this insight in his thread here is i think important more broadly, if we are interested in doing more than just pointing and laughing at the idiots.
Basically, people choose to buy into these apparently mad theories for rational reasons, they get something out of it, and if you ignore that and just picture them as victims of the internet or dupes of trump's grift or whatever you'll never come up with any ideas of how to deal with the problem.
Yes. That’s exactly what I’m trying to get better at understanding.I totally agree that it's important to look beyond 'these people are idiots' if you're going to get a grip on this stuff. It seems to me though (and I might be misunderstanding him here) that there's a hole in there somewhere, around the point where people actually start to believe in this stuff. Either you have a moment where they go 'I deliberately choose to believe in something that I know not to be true' which I find hard to see happening (is it even possible?). Or there's a point where people start to believe it without being aware of it - in which case surely there is an element there of not just being rational beings. Or they don't believe but pretend they do I suppose, for which there might be rational reasons.
Short version - looks like 'choose' is a tricky word in here.
I didn't mean the folks who keep a couple of rifles and shotguns in a handy place without bothering to lock them up. Having a full gun rack in open display is certainly a weird sight for many Brits, but I was actually referring to the batshit types with an arsenal big enough that it looks like that armoury scene from The Matrix.