The Reform UK Party (latest nigel farage vehicle) is it to be laughed at or not

[cupid_stunt]

Well, well, well..



This appears to be in response to Farage’s failure to bend to Musk on Tommy Robinson and the organised right.

I did wonder if Musk would throw his toys out of his pram after Farage distanced himself from his support for Tommy Robinson, hopefully that will end any chance of a donation now.

 

[steeplejack]

I long for the day when Elon Musk is forgotten.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Someone has posted this in a reply.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

I did wonder if Musk would throw his toys out of his pram after Farage distanced himself from his support for Tommy Robinson, hopefully that will end any chance of a donation now.

Bafflingly stupid from Musk who seems to think Reform needs to throw its lot in with the lunatic fringe.

But, yes, this does appear to be sound of Reform chips being pissed on….

 

[cloudyday]

farage has been polishing ket-boy's hoop all morning, lol.

 

[moochedit]

Bafflingly stupid from Musk who seems to think Reform needs to throw its lot in with the lunatic fringe.

But, yes, this does appear to be sound of Reform chips being pissed on….

Musk has no clue about british politics beyond what he sees in his "x" feed.

 

[BusLanes]

Someone has posted this in a reply.

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Would have thought they'd need more pills or lines to make this accurate

 

[Smokeandsteam]

Musk has no clue about british politics beyond what he sees in his "x" feed.

No doubt. But this is an apparent disaster for Reform. They had the elite liberals on the back foot this week. Musk’s pivot to the thug fringe appears to have put paid to that.

 

[steeplejack]

Bafflingly stupid from Musk who seems to think Reform needs to throw its lot in with the lunatic fringe.

But, yes, this does appear to be sound of Reform chips being pissed on….

I think you're mistaking him for someone who gives a fuck.

What matters here is Elon being kept at the top of the news agenda and the centre of attention. Whilst it's amusing to see Farage on the receiving end of treatment he normally metes out to others, Musk's over-riding need is to be seen and discussed with SYL & Farage the pawns currently of importance to that agenda in play.

Suck a needy, parasitical, grasping void of a human. Musk really is cheese under the toenails of humanity. Thankfully this cosplaying of a fascist takeover of the globe in the full glare of the media is unlikely to end well for him. Too noisy.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

farage has been polishing ket-boy's hoop all morning, lol.

Yep. Perfect timing for maximum damage.

It is hard to avoid the conclusion that the richest person in the world is a complete idiot.

 

[moochedit]

Farages ego would never tolorate robinson in reform anyway.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

I think you're mistaking him for someone who gives a fuck.

What matters here is Elon being kept at the top of the news agenda and the centre of attention. Whilst it's amusing to see Farage on the receiving end of treatment he normally metes out to others, Musk's over-riding need is to be seen and discussed with SYL & Farage the pawns currently of importance to that agenda in play.

No doubt, Musk doesn’t give a fuck.

But if Farage throws his toys out of the pram/the loons line up behind Musk then Reform will quickly go the same way as UKIP and other populist right projects: death by a thousand splits.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Farages ego would never tolorate robinson in reform anyway.

Not just his ego. By all accounts, Farage is a massive racist in private life, but he knows that overt racism won't promote his political career. He distances himself from Robinson because he has ambitions for his latest vehicle becoming something more than a 4-5% vote-share racist fringe party. He's a political operator first and foremost.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

Not just his ego. By all accounts, Farage is a massive racist in private life, but he knows that overt racism won't promote his political career. He distances himself from Robinson because he has ambitions for his latest vehicle becoming something more than a 4-5% vote-share racist fringe party. He's a political operator first and foremost.

Whereas Musk appears to believe that Reform is the GOP and not an insurgent operation that can rapidly head back to the headbanger fringe as quickly as it emerged from it.

 

[steeplejack]

No doubt, Musk doesn’t give a fuck.

But if Farage throws his toys out of the pram/the loons line up behind Musk then Reform will quickly go the same way as UKIP and other populist right projects: death by a thousand splits.

Hm. What does 'the loons lining up behind Musk' look like? Another Veritas...remember them? Posh weirdo Paul Weston being brought out of the shadows? Yaxley Lennon being funded directly by Musk when he gets out of the clink?

Will be hilarious if Reform does implode over this but the pressures that created it likely will go elsewhere. I'm not hugely comfortable with political news being dominated by a social media spat between a parasitical billionaire and a pound shop "country squire".

The bigger picture is that this is likely a fringe skirmish on the edges of the incoming Trump administration where there seems to be a battle to limit Musk's influence on Trump and government. Maybe Farage was poisionous after five Old Speckled Hens about Musk, and it's been found out.

 

[Lotte]

Musk has no clue about british politics beyond what he sees in his "x" feed.

Explains why he's obsessed with a case that happened ten years ago.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Musk’s right, Farridge must go.

Come on Anderson, your time is now!!!

 

[Everything Goes]

I did wonder if Musk would throw his toys out of his pram after Farage distanced himself from his support for Tommy Robinson, hopefully that will end any chance of a donation now.

Musk will tell Reform to get rid of Farage if they want $100 million. What a dilemma, far right rats fighting in a bag.

Can't wait to see Musk twisting the knife in Trumps back.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

Will be hilarious if Reform does implode over this but the pressures that created it likely will go elsewhere. I'm not hugely comfortable with political news being dominated by a social media spat between a parasitical billionaire and a pound shop "country squire".

It would be funny but also highly significant if Reform/the online right did implode.

You are right, the pressure would go elsewhere but even so it’d be the end of Farage. As I’ve said elsewhere the existential bind on their side is that economically speaking Farage is a clapped out Thatcher tribute act for which a limited political ceiling exists, but he’s also the most charismatic and recognisable figure the populist right has by a distance.

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

No doubt, Musk doesn’t give a fuck.

But if Farage throws his toys out of the pram/the loons line up behind Musk then Reform will quickly go the same way as UKIP and other populist right projects: death by a thousand splits.

Years ago, there was a discussion among my (vast majority raging lefty) neighbours about election leaflets and our 'mixed race' postie. We thought it was awful that he might have to deliver shite like that. We looked into it, and if it's official election campaign literature then the Royal Mail has a legal obligation to deliver a leaflet )within certain guidelines).

Even though we couldn't, say, protest to the sorting office management or whatever, to make them not put posties in that position, I put a line of masking tape across the top of my letterbox and wrote 'No BNP leaflets thanks' in solidarity, didn't want him thinking I was happy to receive that shite/wanted it.

Over the years, it's expanded to become 'No BNP or UKIP leaflets, thanks' then 'No BNP, UKIP or Brexit leaflets, thanks' and I think I'm currently on No BNP, UKIP, Brexit or Reform leaflets, thanks'.

On the one hand, it's gratifying that they've fizzled out as political forces, but on the other hand, it's a bit like chopping the limb off an axolotl. The body politic is rotten to the core and keeps regenerating.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

On the one hand, it's gratifying that they've fizzled out as political forces, but on the other hand, it's a bit like chopping the limb off an axolotl. The body politic is rotten to the core and keeps regenerating.

Yes, I agree. As I said above I fully accept that even if Reform does die back then populist right politics will come back in a different form.

But there really was a sense that Reform is/was the vehicle that would break through.

Anyway, meanwhile…

 

[Lotte]

What principles?

 

[a_chap]

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!

Oh... my sides.

Hang on.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!

Elon Musk calls for Nigel Farage to be replaced as Reform UK leader

Nigel Farage claims Musk's call is due to a disagreement support for far-right activist Tommy Robinson.

www.bbc.co.uk

I can hardly breathe...

 

[rubbershoes]

Musk will tell Reform to get rid of Farage if they want $100 million. What a dilemma, far right rats fighting in a bag.

But doesn't Farage own Reform? Is he or Tice the majority shareholder?

 

[Rebecca Riot]

Musk will be arranging for Nige to have a 'little accident ' if he doesn't toe the line and go quietly.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

What principles?

he doesn't have any. Hence he can truthfully say that he never sells them out.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

But doesn't Farage own Reform? Is he or Tice the majority shareholder?

Farridge owns 60% of the shares, according to wikipedia.

 

[cupid_stunt]

But doesn't Farage own Reform? Is he or Tice the majority shareholder?

Not any more, but it's next to impossible to remove him as leader.

Earlier this year, Farage claimed he was “relinquishing” control of Reform, which had previously taken the form of a registered company, of which he was the majority shareholder.

At Reform’s conference in September, this novel legal form was changed into a more conventional structure, with Farage saying it would be the “members of Reform that will own this party”.

However, a new constitution passed at the conference leaves Farage with most of the levers of power. While the document introduced the ability to trigger a motion of no confidence in the leader, the hurdles for achieving this are exceptionally high.

A vote can be triggered if 50 per cent of all members write to the chairman within a 60 day period requesting a motion of no confidence, or if 50 per cent of MPs write to the chairman asking for one – but the latter only applies if there are more than 100 Reform MPs in Parliament (currently there are five). The actual vote of no confidence is then taken by the party board, which is partly appointed by Farage himself. While there will be votes by the membership on Reform’s policy prospectus at conference, these will also only be “advisory”.

Why Reform's new haul of recruits might end up disappointing Nigel Farage

The right-wing party says it has tens of thousands of more members than the Tories. But will they really be able to improve its electoral ground game?

inews.co.uk

 

[gosub]

No doubt, Musk doesn’t give a fuck.

But if Farage throws his toys out of the pram/the loons line up behind Musk then Reform will quickly go the same way as UKIP and other populist right projects: death by a thousand splits.

UKIP was a party primarily about leaving the EU...leave won referendum and it fizzled out

 

[Smokeandsteam]

UKIP was a party primarily about leaving the EU...leave won referendum and it fizzled out

It fizzled out after repeated arguments, divisions and splits:

A timeline of Ukip's rise and fall

Formed in 1993, Ukip achieved its Holy Grail with the Brexit vote - but its new leader faces a Herculean task to revive it now

www.independent.co.uk