The Reform UK Party (latest nigel farage vehicle) is it to be laughed at or not

[Zapp Brannigan]

This poll also shows Refom leading amongst 16-17 year old males.

It shows Labour leading by quite some distance?

 

[Silas Loom]

Still astonishing that they are second though. Would like to see a gender split.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

Gender split is here:

Males:

REF: 35%
LAB: 35%
LDEM: 11%
CON: 11%
GRN: 2%

Females:

LAB: 43%
GRN: 33%
REF: 12%
LDEM: 8%
CON: 0%

 

[ElizabethofYork]

This poll also shows Refom leading amongst 16-17 year old males.

That's concerning.

 

[Elpenor]

Gender split is here:

Males:

REF: 35%
LAB: 35%
LDEM: 11%
CON: 11%
GRN: 2%

Females:

LAB: 43%
GRN: 33%
REF: 12%
LDEM: 8%
CON: 0%

The split of green votes is bizarre.

 

[Silas Loom]

Oh. It’s JLPartners and more importantly, n=201. Move along, nothing to see.

 

[Gromit]

This poll also shows Refom leading amongst 16-17 year old males.

14 years of Tory rule has created cunts so evil they need to find a party even more evil to align with. The student has become the master.

 

[RevolutionSound]

I know it's wrong but part of me can't help but be a peedie bit impressed by just how batshit the local Reform loon is.

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Loony, but worrying, given the anti semitic dog whistles. Not far off Nazi propaganda from the 30s

 

[Dogsauce]

I like this clip, with 'Right Said Fred' added.

If they were smart, they’d have rigged up a bucket of confetti/shit/polonium to tip over anyone pulling down the sign.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

Oh. It’s JLPartners and more importantly, n=201. Move along, nothing to see.

Yes, it’s one poll and all the usual caveats apply. But, a) across Europe young people are actually voting for the populist right b) Farage is the most popular politician on Tik Tok/social media and his campaign team are focussed on youth and engagement and c) whilst the poll might be inconvenient for the ‘demography is destiny’ crowd, ‘moving along’ seems to be part of the reason why the populist right are making inroads everywhere.

 

[rubbershoes]

That's concerning.

My 17 yo son says Reform bots are all over tiktok

 

[cupid_stunt]

My 17 yo son says Reform bots are all over tiktok

Sunak says the same, he's not your son by any chance?

 

[Karl Masks]

Sunak says the same, he's not your son by any chance?

Either way I hope the poor lad has SKY

 

[Ranbay]

My 17 yo son says Reform bots are all over tiktok

They are, just look at the profile and you can tell, but also loads of genuine people...

 

[PR1Berske]

Big fat old bald men rampaging through Whitehall by the end of the year, screaming about a rigged election.

A British Jan 6th would be like an Only Fools and Horses Christmas Special medley.

 

[A380]

 

[petee]

a bucket of confetti/shit/polonium

i admit i'd never thought of that combination before.

 

[CNT36]

Its going to be like Brexit isn't it? Not everyone who voted for Brexit is racist. But all racists voted for Brexit.

This was bollocks eight years ago and it is bollocks now. Plenty of racists voted remain.

Racists will vote alsorts of ways in this election for a myriad of reasons else the two major parties wouldn't be courting them.

 

[RevolutionSound]

A British Jan 6th would be like an Only Fools and Horses Christmas Special medley.

It'd be like that episode of Citizen Smith where they storm Parliament while it's in recess

 

[rubbershoes]

Sunak says the same, he's not your son by any chance?

Probably not. I'll ask him

 

[two sheds]

Probably not. I'll ask him

Good Deep Cover

 

[Serge Forward]

If they were smart, they’d have rigged up a bucket of confetti/shit/polonium to tip over anyone pulling down the sign.

To be fair, I expect those two were employed by the meeting place. They were proper half hearted about it and wisely walked away from any potential hazards.

 

[Karl Masks]

We're all wanting to ask:

Where can I get my reform blazer badge and tie combination pack?

 

[Lotte]

I've seen a Reform voter in the wild saying they're 'speaking for the unheard'. Which unheard people, exactly?

 

[Smokeandsteam]

I've seen a Reform voter in the wild saying they're 'speaking for the unheard'. Which unheard people, exactly?

The millions of people without political representation presumably.

Regardless of what we might think of Reform it's undeniable that:

1. There is a massive political vacuum to the left and right of the establishment parties.
2. The centre ground occupied by the establishment parties is in crisis - in the UK and across Europe. It has no narrative to explain what is happening and is reviled. As a result the space described in point 1 becomes more populated.
3. Sooner or later politicall vacuums are filled.

 

[The39thStep]

The millions of people without political representation presumably.

Regardless of what we might think of Reform it's undeniable that:

1. There is a massive political vacuum to the left and right of the establishment parties.
2. The centre ground occupied by the establishment parties is in crisis - in the UK and across Europe. It has no narrative to explain what is happening and is reviled. As a result the space described in point 1 becomes more populated.
3. Sooner or later politicall vacuums are filled.

and if uncontested by a pro working class left the vacuum becomes the right

 

[Lotte]

They're not that much different from the Tories though. Just more mask-off racist.

What pro-working-class left parties are there? Galloway's lot?

 

[Puddy_Tat]

What pro-working-class left parties are there? Galloway's lot?

i think it's a stretch to call them 'left'...

 

[Pickman's model]

We're all wanting to ask:

Where can I get my reform blazer badge and tie combination pack?

Any old spiv who wants to make a few quid out of an ignorant and credulous twat

 

[xenon]

I think reform would be far more of a threat if they pivot into the red brown stuff. Radical policies on housing protectionist economics. Drawing in disaffected would be left-wing voters. Maybe the next incarnation will.