stethoscope
Well-Known Member
Beat me to it - I was just about to post about that scum. And stupid with it.
The New Tories - Ruthlessly Incompetent. Post Examples of Tory Stupidity Here
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Beat me to it - I was just about to post about that scum. And stupid with it.
goldenecitrone
post tenebras lux
The last Labour government's cavalier attitude to Britain's finances meant that back in those dark days 7 x 8 was worth 56. But under our tough austerity measures, the Conservatives have managed to bring it down to a much more manageable 55.9999875.
TheHoodedClaw
acknowledging ur soup leg
This just popped up on twitter. It's the intro to a paywalled Financial Times article I think
That is a wonderful, wonderful sentence.
Edit: from here How a statue of Satan reduced Lord Jeffrey Archer’s tax bill - FT.com
That headline is pretty good too.
That is a wonderful, wonderful sentence.
Edit: from here How a statue of Satan reduced Lord Jeffrey Archer’s tax bill - FT.com
That headline is pretty good too.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
I bet he originally had the statue in his bedroom.
maomao
普費斯
That's just the official 'massaged' figure. When PFI payments and other factors are taken into account 8 7's are now up to 422.
StoneRoad
heckling from the back!
Bit of an own-goal ?
Doctors angry as 'cancelled' Jeremy Hunt event goes ahead - BBC News
I think so ! - certainly stupid ...
Doctors angry as 'cancelled' Jeremy Hunt event goes ahead - BBC News
I think so ! - certainly stupid ...
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
This just makes them look petty and foolish. Spread it far and wide. Not that there won't be plenty more examples as time goes on...
Lurdan
old wave
Tory Commentariatista Tim Montgomerie finally 'can't take it any more' and uses his Times column to announce his resignation from the party.
Enough. I'm quitting the Conservative party - Times (paywalled but...)
His replacement at Conservative Home patronises him. 'Real' journalist Roy Greenslade mocks him as a jumped up blogger. Truly it's a hard, hard life being so principled.
Enough. I'm quitting the Conservative party - Times (paywalled but...)
This charade over the EU is the final straw and it follows abject failure on immigration, deficit reduction and inequality
I became a Conservative because of Margaret Thatcher. It wasn’t just the colour of her politics, but the strength. When she said she would end union militancy, she ended it. When she sought a rebate from the EU, she got one. When she successfully undertook to retake the Falklands, she ended the Britain-is-in-decline narrative of the postwar period.
She might not have always brought harmony where there was discord or hope in every place where there was despair, as she promised on her first day in Downing Street, but, unlike most politicians, she didn’t regard winning elections as a tenth of what mattered. It was what you did with power that counted.
Could David Cameron be much more different? He promised to bring down immigration but despite Theresa May’s hollow rhetoric, it’s rising. And that defining mission to eliminate the deficit? The Treasury is still borrowing £75 billion a year — a burden on the next generation that would once have shocked and shamed us, and still should. The national debt is up by more than 50 per cent, but this hasn’t seen our armed forces rebuilt. They’ve been cut to the bone.
What about fundamental change in Britain’s relationship with Brussels that the PM pledged, promised and vowed to deliver? The 69 per cent who think he got a bad deal are right. The newspapers that called the deal a “joke”, “conjuring trick” and “delusion” weren’t exaggerating. But it took the Fourth Estate rather than Tory MPs to point out the emperor’s naked state. With a few honourable exceptions Conservative parliamentarians were silent when Mr Cameron, pretending to have changed anything that matters, stood at the same dispatch box at which Mrs Thatcher vowed to fight European integration.
If Britain remains chained to Brussels after this charade we’ll be in a weaker position than before. We’ll be the country that made Eurosceptic noises for decades but capitulated when it mattered. The EU’s bureaucracy, courts and politicos will see us as all-bark, no-bite moaning minnies.
For the moment Mr Cameron can get away with all of this. Labour moderates are no nearer getting rid of their extremist leader than when he was elected. It will probably take a generation before northern England and Scotland trust the Lib Dems again. And Ukip, although resilient at double figures in most opinion polls, is too Trump-ian to mount a credible challenge for power.
Faced with a weak, divided opposition in the 1980s Mrs Thatcher moved the country forward. She seized the opportunity to deliver tough reforms that a more effective opposition might have stopped. Today, David Cameron and George Osborne are doing little that Blairites or Cleggites could object to. I recently asked Peter Mandelson what separated his politics from that of Mr Osborne. He joked that the top rate of income tax was too high. At least I think he was joking.
A radical transformation of the Conservative party is under way. The Tories who defected to Ukip before the last election were replaced by the kind of people who voted Liberal Democrat at the previous four elections. The next political blood transfusion into the Tory body may well come from exiles from Corbyn’s Labour party and they will compensate for any haemorrhage of Eurosceptic voters because of the referendum fight.
I admit this grand repositioning might work electorally for a period, but it doesn’t mean that people like me should continue to give time, love and money to the Conservative cause. So, after 28 years of membership, I’m resigning. I’m not joining another party but don’t want to give another penny to the Cameron project.
The PM will no doubt treat with disdain my resignation like the departure of tens of thousands of once-loyal grassroots members who have already walked away. But one day an opposition party will get its act together or a wholly new party will emerge. At that point there’ll be a realisation that the Tories’ 40-odd per cent in current opinion polls was a mile wide but an inch deep; reflecting disappointment at alternatives rather than allegiance.
And at some point Britain will notice that the Conservatives didn’t fix the roof when the sun was shining. That we will head into the next economic downturn with the public finances still in precarious shape, with vital airport runways unbuilt and banks too-big-to-fail as big as ever. And if Mr Cameron gets his way we’ll still be powerless to control immigration from an economically turbulent, declining EU, of which we will be an impotent member.
For me the greatest disappointment will be that we failed to build the socially just Conservatism that an extended period in power provided the space for. Michael Gove’s school reforms, Iain Duncan Smith’s universal credit and Osborne’s living wage are considerable achievements but the overall direction of housing, tax, pensions, immigration and family policy has been to intensify inequality between the propertied and the unpropertied, between the old and young, and between those without children and those with.
And nothing registers more strongly on the social injustice front than recommending staying in the EU. It remains the greatest source of social misery on the continent — requiring intense austerity in countries such as Greece and causing terrible youth unemployment across southern Europe from which millions will suffer lifelong scars. I’m just glad that Mrs Thatcher cannot see what her party has become.
I became a Conservative because of Margaret Thatcher. It wasn’t just the colour of her politics, but the strength. When she said she would end union militancy, she ended it. When she sought a rebate from the EU, she got one. When she successfully undertook to retake the Falklands, she ended the Britain-is-in-decline narrative of the postwar period.
She might not have always brought harmony where there was discord or hope in every place where there was despair, as she promised on her first day in Downing Street, but, unlike most politicians, she didn’t regard winning elections as a tenth of what mattered. It was what you did with power that counted.
Could David Cameron be much more different? He promised to bring down immigration but despite Theresa May’s hollow rhetoric, it’s rising. And that defining mission to eliminate the deficit? The Treasury is still borrowing £75 billion a year — a burden on the next generation that would once have shocked and shamed us, and still should. The national debt is up by more than 50 per cent, but this hasn’t seen our armed forces rebuilt. They’ve been cut to the bone.
What about fundamental change in Britain’s relationship with Brussels that the PM pledged, promised and vowed to deliver? The 69 per cent who think he got a bad deal are right. The newspapers that called the deal a “joke”, “conjuring trick” and “delusion” weren’t exaggerating. But it took the Fourth Estate rather than Tory MPs to point out the emperor’s naked state. With a few honourable exceptions Conservative parliamentarians were silent when Mr Cameron, pretending to have changed anything that matters, stood at the same dispatch box at which Mrs Thatcher vowed to fight European integration.
If Britain remains chained to Brussels after this charade we’ll be in a weaker position than before. We’ll be the country that made Eurosceptic noises for decades but capitulated when it mattered. The EU’s bureaucracy, courts and politicos will see us as all-bark, no-bite moaning minnies.
For the moment Mr Cameron can get away with all of this. Labour moderates are no nearer getting rid of their extremist leader than when he was elected. It will probably take a generation before northern England and Scotland trust the Lib Dems again. And Ukip, although resilient at double figures in most opinion polls, is too Trump-ian to mount a credible challenge for power.
Faced with a weak, divided opposition in the 1980s Mrs Thatcher moved the country forward. She seized the opportunity to deliver tough reforms that a more effective opposition might have stopped. Today, David Cameron and George Osborne are doing little that Blairites or Cleggites could object to. I recently asked Peter Mandelson what separated his politics from that of Mr Osborne. He joked that the top rate of income tax was too high. At least I think he was joking.
A radical transformation of the Conservative party is under way. The Tories who defected to Ukip before the last election were replaced by the kind of people who voted Liberal Democrat at the previous four elections. The next political blood transfusion into the Tory body may well come from exiles from Corbyn’s Labour party and they will compensate for any haemorrhage of Eurosceptic voters because of the referendum fight.
I admit this grand repositioning might work electorally for a period, but it doesn’t mean that people like me should continue to give time, love and money to the Conservative cause. So, after 28 years of membership, I’m resigning. I’m not joining another party but don’t want to give another penny to the Cameron project.
The PM will no doubt treat with disdain my resignation like the departure of tens of thousands of once-loyal grassroots members who have already walked away. But one day an opposition party will get its act together or a wholly new party will emerge. At that point there’ll be a realisation that the Tories’ 40-odd per cent in current opinion polls was a mile wide but an inch deep; reflecting disappointment at alternatives rather than allegiance.
And at some point Britain will notice that the Conservatives didn’t fix the roof when the sun was shining. That we will head into the next economic downturn with the public finances still in precarious shape, with vital airport runways unbuilt and banks too-big-to-fail as big as ever. And if Mr Cameron gets his way we’ll still be powerless to control immigration from an economically turbulent, declining EU, of which we will be an impotent member.
For me the greatest disappointment will be that we failed to build the socially just Conservatism that an extended period in power provided the space for. Michael Gove’s school reforms, Iain Duncan Smith’s universal credit and Osborne’s living wage are considerable achievements but the overall direction of housing, tax, pensions, immigration and family policy has been to intensify inequality between the propertied and the unpropertied, between the old and young, and between those without children and those with.
And nothing registers more strongly on the social injustice front than recommending staying in the EU. It remains the greatest source of social misery on the continent — requiring intense austerity in countries such as Greece and causing terrible youth unemployment across southern Europe from which millions will suffer lifelong scars. I’m just glad that Mrs Thatcher cannot see what her party has become.
His replacement at Conservative Home patronises him. 'Real' journalist Roy Greenslade mocks him as a jumped up blogger. Truly it's a hard, hard life being so principled.
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Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
Imagine thinking that the current tory party wasn't cunty enough. Just imagine being in that person's head. Terrifying.
maomao
普費斯
Cameron's as much of a traditional conservative as Blair was a socialist. They've both led pretty much identical neo-liberal governments. The Tories have made a better job of persuading their grass roots that they represent them, after all 'being a cunt' was always one of their core values. But they're both traitors to their traditions.
gosub
~#
Roy Greenslade comes across a bit catty, Montgomerie has got the Times gig for the US elections
gosub
~#
Used to be an agents and Chairman thank you dinner after they won an election, Cameron got rid of it. Has turned out to be a bit of a tell.
Town I'm in, about as tory as it gets, 9,000 residents; local tory party membership 20. That articles: "Tories’ 40-odd per cent in current opinion polls was a mile wide but an inch deep;"" rings true.
Nylock
I hate 'these days'...
Just when you thought IDS could not be any more of a cunt, I give you the premium-rate Universal Credit helpline:
'Up to £18 for a typical UC claim call'
...maybe he's hoping everyone will run out of outrage at his shit.... who knows... I hope if he ever gets punished for this shit, that the punishment is suitably orwellian....
'Up to £18 for a typical UC claim call'
...maybe he's hoping everyone will run out of outrage at his shit.... who knows... I hope if he ever gets punished for this shit, that the punishment is suitably orwellian....
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
gosub
~#
That would be Nick Herbert who got his seat after running Business for Sterling, and who was offering soundbites last week that he was convinced by the deal (then unagreed) and for those wanting out wouldn't be happy with any deal.
stethoscope
Well-Known Member
Beat me to it again brogdale - just about to post that. Osborne still leading the way for the ruthlessly incompetent.
gosub
~#
UK environment ministers at odds over Brexit impact on farming
The 18bn is the gross we put in, we get back about 7bn of which 3.5bn is CAP relatated, and he's offing 2bn and calling it a bonanza for farmers
The 18bn is the gross we put in, we get back about 7bn of which 3.5bn is CAP relatated, and he's offing 2bn and calling it a bonanza for farmers
Mr.Bishie
pickled egg
Check this twisted shit out!
George Osborne is paying therapists to 'coerce' mentally ill people back to work | The Canary
stethoscope
Well-Known Member
Christ! You can't even get CBT for love and money on the NHS in some areas when you want it, and here's Osborne trying to enlist therapists onto the job seeking/benefits front-line through the use of some sort of psychological warfare?
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
I notice from the ad - which looks bloody well paid for a NHS scale 7 post - that they say that a requirement for the job is membership of BABCP or similar.
Given that all the professional bodies, including BABCP, are on record as saying that this kind of work is unethical, they're going to have to keep firing therapists as their professional certification is withdrawn and hiring new ones.
Brixton Hatter
Home is south London mate
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