The grand tory 'civil war' thread
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Schmetterling
I saw something nasty in the woodshed!
ska invita
back on the other side
Id like to think any of this made the slightest bit of difference but I can't bring myself to even pretend it does.
It doesn't really make any difference but fun to watch anyway.
ska invita
back on the other side
Fez909
toilet expert
The Mirror's headline here is ridiculous 
Need some ice for that? 11 sick Tory on Tory burns from the IDS civil war
Need some ice for that? 11 sick Tory on Tory burns from the IDS civil war
teqniq
DisMembered
What joy to wake up to this morning
Iain Duncan Smith's resignation has left the Tory leadership facing open revolt
Iain Duncan Smith's resignation has left the Tory leadership facing open revolt
Blimey. If Cameron is briefing against Osborne like this the shit really is hitting the fan. I thought the wheels would come off Cameron's government at some point, but didn't for one minute think it would happen quite so quickly or quite so dramatically.
From today's Torygraph:
newbie
undisambiguated
spot on. the potential may not be realised, of course, and also, down the line may not be so welcome. We know more about IDS now than last time he was leader, does anyone really want his wing of the tory party in the ascendancy?
But unless they remember sooner rather than later that tearing chunks off their enemies sustains their opponents, for the time being it's enjoyable to watch.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
its great isn't it, the whole debacle is moving at the speed of twitter as the pair of cunts in 10&11 start to look weak.Blimey. If Cameron is briefing against Osborne like this the shit really is hitting the fan. I thought the wheels would come off Cameron's government at some point, but didn't for one minute think it would happen quite so quickly or quite so dramatically.
youngian
Well-Known Member
Osborne will ride this one out as the budget is not controversial with great swathes of voters who have no idea what capital gains tax is and think disability claimants are skivers zipping down the offy in their mobility scooters. And even Tory voters perceive Duncan-Smith to be a weaselly little turd.
skyscraper101
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Be interesting to see how much muscle Corbyn flexes at PMQs on Weds.
My fear is he'll continue with his points of view style letters to Corb, but it has all the makings of a John Major style crumbling when Blair precision hit his weak leadership at every opportunity.
My fear is he'll continue with his points of view style letters to Corb, but it has all the makings of a John Major style crumbling when Blair precision hit his weak leadership at every opportunity.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
yeh cos blair was never a weak leader
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
While I wouldn't trust a word that IDS says, I think he's in cloud cuckoo land if he truly thinks there's the remotest prospect of anyone else considering him as a credible leadership candidate.
skyscraper101
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yeh cos blair was never a weak leader
way to go missing the point there, thumbs.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
no point to crass comparison - you say major was a weak leader, which i think is bollocks. he was a markedly better, stronger, leader than cameron, winning an election (1992) in the middle of the poll tax debacle with 42% of the vote. the comparison with corbyn's utterly barking: corbyn elected leader despite his parliamentary party, major elected leader by his parliamentary party.
hash tag
Reaching out
I think George was slowly moving away from aspirations of leadership, it now seems like he has blown it. On the downside, it does Boris's claim a power of good.when you get rid of one Tory, as sure as rotten eggs is rotten eggs, there will be another waiting to take their place. Enjoy while it lasts.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
yeh well with luck we'll be able to wave goodbye to boris after the referendum.
Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
Gove fancies it - and i would say Theresa May is one of the most likely to succeed. Cant see boris winning it - too many enemies.
gosub
~#
He had the brain to realize that kicking the disabled (who probably won't vote Tory) at the same time as giving middle income tax cuts (who might vote Tory), looks really shitty, and resigned ahead of the Last Leg, who probably should be getting slightly more credit for calling all this shit out.
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