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[Flavour]

they control bloody everything them jutes!

 

[steeplejack]

PS- Dover Athletic FC were ready to sign a deal with Bromley (I think) to use their ground for home fixtures, if Brexit had gone ahead on time, as visiting football clubs would not have been able to reach fixtures in Dover easily, as a result of the port collapsing in the early hours after a no-deal .

All a bit academic now as sadly corona is likely to sink the National League season and as a result (very likely) the football club itself. But indicative of the batshit insane preparations this nonsense is forcing ordinary companies / folk to have to make.

 

[andysays]

The new Kentish Border Force:

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I thought Walmington on Sea was supposed to be in Sussex, but it actually turns out to have been in West Kent, so this is more appropriate than I first thought

 

[brogdale]

I thought Walmington on Sea was supposed to be in Sussex, but it actually turns out to have been in West Kent, so this is more appropriate than I first thought

The stallion rampant on the cap badges was the give away.

 

[Roadkill]

You seem to think that having 7000 lorries full of goods within our borders puts us at some kind of disadvantage.

Lorries sitting in massive traffic jams aren't much of an advantage to anyone, especially if they've perishable goods in the back.

 

[Streathamite]

I love Kent and have friends and family staying there. It's facing a desperate couple of years really, as are the rest of us, to a lesser degree.

Everyone knows this will be a disaster, everyone knows it will cause massive disruption and likely massive economic degradation and unemployment, everyone can see creeping oligarchisation and democratic erosion in plain sight.

But no one can stop it.

We are heading for the clusterfuck to end all clusterfucks.
And it's all foreseeable, and was preventable.
And it's happening 100% as a result of government policy.
the theatre sector, which is solid Tory ground How the fuck did we end up in this mess?

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Lorries sitting in massive traffic jams aren't much of an advantage to anyone, especially if they've perishable goods in the back.

They're an advantage to my mate Jim, he steals goods from lorries, mostly around Heathrow, but he'll be happy to expand to Kent come January; another Brexit win

 

[Raheem]

We are heading for the clusterfuck to end all clusterfucks.

A bit optimistic. My feeling is that the clusterfucks will keep coming.

 

[brogdale]

That iconic breakthrough moment in the SurrEnt tunnel beneath the Greensand ridge between Limpsfield and Crockham Hill:

 

[Pickman's model]

We are heading for the clusterfuck to end all clusterfucks.
And it's all foreseeable, and was preventable.
And it's happening 100% as a result of government policy.
the theatre sector, which is solid Tory ground How the fuck did we end up in this mess?

There will be a bigger clusterfuck along shortly

 

[not-bono-ever]

just wait until private non commercial vehicles are excluded from using the tunnel.

 

[Streathamite]

We are heading for the clusterfuck to end all clusterfucks.
And it's all foreseeable, and was preventable.
And it's happening 100% as a result of government policy.
the theatre sector, which is solid Tory ground How the fuck did we end up in this mess?

e2a; ignore the bit about the Theatre, mispost and my cackhandedness whilst posting on another site elsewhere

 

[Streathamite]

There will be a bigger clusterfuck along shortly

That's pretty much a certainty, yes

 

[ska invita]

I wonder what the traffic implications of this Kent thing will be
No doubt there'll still be Operation Shit Stack anyway
But the idea is to keep some trucks displaced



The two roads trucks approach Kent on are the M25 at the Dartford Crossing and also M25 coming from the South West...
I wonder where the natural pre-Kent pile up for trucks will be instead? Could get very snarly... M25 is a pinch point already

**Also how come Rochester isnt in Kent on that map?

 

[Pickman's model]

I wonder what the traffic implications of this Kent thing will be
No doubt there'll still be Operation Shit Stack anyway
But the idea is to keep some trucks displaced

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The two roads trucks approach Kent on are the M25 at the Dartford Crossing and also M25 coming from the South West...
I wonder where the natural pre-Kent pile up for trucks will be instead? Could get very snarly... M25 is a pinch point already

**Also how come Rochester isnt in Kent on that map?

They seceded last week

 

[maomao]

I wonder what the traffic implications of this Kent thing will be
No doubt there'll still be Operation Shit Stack anyway
But the idea is to keep some trucks displaced

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The two roads trucks approach Kent on are the M25 at the Dartford Crossing and also M25 coming from the South West...
I wonder where the natural pre-Kent pile up for trucks will be instead? Could get very snarly... M25 is a pinch point already

**Also how come Rochester isnt in Kent on that map?

Medway has its own council.

 

[brogdale]

I wonder what the traffic implications of this Kent thing will be
No doubt there'll still be Operation Shit Stack anyway
But the idea is to keep some trucks displaced

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The two roads trucks approach Kent on are the M25 at the Dartford Crossing and also M25 coming from the South West...
I wonder where the natural pre-Kent pile up for trucks will be instead? Could get very snarly... M25 is a pinch point already

**Also how come Rochester isnt in Kent on that map?

Medway has been a unitary authority, independent of KCC, since 1998.

AFAIK, the main provisions for HGV parking are within Kent; operation Brock (portmanteau of Brexit & cock-up?) having 4 phases that work progressively back from Dover & The Channel Tunnel towards the M26 junction with the M25 at Sevenoaks.

Fuck knows where they expect the traffic with the correct papers/Kent permit to go?

 

[brogdale]

The Kentish coastal town of No Deal

 

[Badgers]

 

[TopCat]

So all the languestine that would normally go to Spain will remain in the UK. Yum!

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

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Why doesn’t that name a single company, hedge fund or banker?

 

[Supine]

So all the languestine that would normally go to Spain will remain in the UK. Yum!

deep fried with chips and mushy peas

 

[Roadkill]

So all the languestine that would normally go to Spain will remain in the UK. Yum!

In the short term, yes. In the longer run the lack of a market to sell them into is likely either to make much of the fleet shift to catching something else, or just go out of business.

 

[TopCat]

In the short term, yes. In the longer run the lack of a market to sell them into is likely either to make much of the fleet shift to catching something else, or just go out of business.

There will be a market here. It's a myth to say there wont be.

 

[brogdale]

Doubt that this would cause much dissent on here...

 

[Raheem]

There will be a market here. It's a myth to say there wont be.

There's obviously going to be a market for anything edible or close to.

 

[ska invita]

Doubt that this would cause much dissent on here...

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im still surprised the north east didnt vote for 'independence' under new labour when they had the chance (im referring to this 2004 North East England devolution referendum - Wikipedia)

 

[Supine]

Doubt that this would cause much dissent on here...

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So as a resident of Cumbria I'm now out of England? Bonus!

 

[Yossarian]

Doubt that this would cause much dissent on here...

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The map makes it look like Britain needs to put some cream on its swollen Kent.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Surrey County Council has released a statement:


Surrey has announced plans to introduce a permit scheme for lorry drivers wishing to cross into Kent, to avoid the predicted tailbacks caused by lorries trying to cross the recently announced Kent border.

A Surrey County Council spokesperson told us, “We understand the need for some sort of border in Kent, as they seek to avoid miles of queues outside Dover by ensuring everyone has the correct paperwork before they even get into the county.

“But all this does is shift the problem onto our doorstep. Any driver without the correct paperwork will be stuck in our county, and this simply won’t do. We can’t have miles-long tailbacks simply shifted from Dover to Surrey.

“So, today we are announcing a new permit scheme for all lorries wishing to pass through Surrey on their way to Kent.

“The paperwork will be simple and straightforward and will ensure the roads of our country remain congestion-free in post-Brexit Britain.

“Any drivers who do not have the correct paperwork will be refused entry, to ensure there are no queues at the Surrey-Kent border.”

The news has been welcomed by residents of Surrey, but has quickly led to copycat schemes in bordering counties.

A Berkshire counsellor told us, “Wait, what? They’re going to push the queues into our backyard. Oh no they’re bloody not!

“Consider this the start of the Berkshire-Surrey Border Permit Scheme, in which any lorry wishing to drive through Berkshire in order to access Surrey in order to get to Kent will have to have a permit, so we can avoid queues on our side of the Berkshire-Surrey border.”

The authorities in Oxfordshire are said to be watching developments closely.