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[The39thStep]

Airport and plane food is expensive and crap. I bring a packed lunch, never had it taken away before (apart from liquids).

But you'd be eating that on the plane surely not bringing it through customs? If Portugal apply this my days of bringing over pork pies might be finished

 

[Pickman's model]

But you'd be eating that on the plane surely not bringing it through customs? If Portugal apply this my days of bringing over pork pies might be finished

Bring them over in a specially designed smuggling hat

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

If it's supplying bits that are broken on JLR vehicles it's gonna be a busy place.

 

[Yossarian]

Great shame the UK is missing out on this initiative

Yellow mealworms were already approved as food in the UK, Denmark, and a few other countries that decided to use a relaxed interpretation of EU directives, though the pro-Brexit press seems to be treating this story as "Now the EU Is Letting WORMS Wriggle Onto Plates!"

 

[Pickman's model]

Yellow mealworms were already approved as food in the UK, Denmark, and a few other countries that decided to use a relaxed interpretation of EU directives, though the pro-Brexit press seems to be treating this story as "Now the EU Is Letting WORMS Wriggle Onto Plates!"

If ever there was a time for the diet of worms to appear in a headline surely this is it

 

[Pickman's model]

Meanwhile in the province...dinosaurs (b)regret voting for that asteroid...

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I've never had a high opinion of the intellect of Ian paisley jr

 

[Smangus]

I ordered a new pair of walking boots recently, direct from a German company because the particular style I want appears no longer to be available from British retailers, though other styles from the same maker are.

They appear to be coming from a supplier in the Netherlands, and have been delayed because of complications resulting from Brexit.

This is mildly annoying, but hasn't caused me to regret my Leave vote.

(not yet anyway; if they still haven't arrived by the end of next week I might feel differently...)

If you get charged tax, duty and an agents fee you might not like it.

 

[andysays]

If you get charged tax, duty and an agents fee you might not like it.

I'll keep you updated...

 

[Flavour]

This article provides a dissenting view.

Basically that as long as you are not air freighting, intensive local farming can have a worse impact than long-range transport.

Agree that NL's agriculture is very impressive and a model to be copied.

what article?

 

[two sheds]

But you'd be eating that on the plane surely not bringing it through customs? If Portugal apply this my days of bringing over pork pies might be finished

You know they'll extract any that aren't fully digested when you get to customs don't you.

 

[The39thStep]

Yellow mealworms were already approved as food in the UK, Denmark, and a few other countries that decided to use a relaxed interpretation of EU directives, though the pro-Brexit press seems to be treating this story as "Now the EU Is Letting WORMS Wriggle Onto Plates!"

Good to see the EU levelling up then

 

[brogdale]

A bit of good news

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What's the link to Brexit?

 

[The39thStep]

What's the link to Brexit?

Trade?

 

[mauvais]

If you actually read the detail of that thing, it's a bit muddier - it's a consolidation of 10 existing warehouses. How many people are employed across those today?

Huge new Jaguar Land Rover global distribution park progresses

Mercia Park said to be the UK’s biggest ever single occupier logistics park creating 1,000s of jobs

www.leicestermercury.co.uk

Edit: the answer is 1,200.

Jaguar Land Rover reveals plans for giant new parts facility

The new 2.9m sq ft ‘logistics campus’ would supply replacement parts to customers across the world

www.coventrytelegraph.net

“It is absolutely not Brexit-related. This is a long-term project, which we began work on in early 2016.

“It is absolutely not short-term Brexit planning, because it is a strategic move.”

 

[brogdale]

I've never had a high opinion of the intellect of Ian paisley jr

A whole tool-bag of blunt chisels...

 

[Pickman's model]

A whole tool-bag of blunt chisels...

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[brogdale]

Trade?

I suppose if Tata are saying this wouldn't have been built in the UK whilst it was within the single market, then maybe?
Not convinced that an Indian corporation securing a loan to build a (big) shed really is the 'Brexit bonus', tbh.

 

[gosub]

They do know whose been in charge for the last 4 years right?

please be fair. As an exercise in how not to do Brexit the last few years comes across as possibly the mentalist way of doing it, with the alternative narrative path being why are we doing this at all blossoming into I told so. But its done.

 

[Chilli.s]

TBH those mealworms do look quite tasty

 

[SpackleFrog]

I suppose if Tata are saying this wouldn't have been built in the UK whilst it was within the single market, then maybe?
Not convinced that an Indian corporation securing a loan to build a (big) shed really is the 'Brexit bonus', tbh.

To be fair a lot of people have been making the argument that car part manufacturers would leave the country etc so its relevant as a riposte to that, no? And although its a consolidation of an existing operation they're saying there will be 1800 new jobs at some stage. Not that I'm inclined to believe them.

Of course the general disappearance of manufacturing jobs from the UK is a trend that predates Brexit by decades but there you go, this is the 'discourse'.

 

[teqniq]

What the fuck. How much longer do we have to endure this vacuous condescending drivel?

 

[brogdale]

What the fuck. How much longer do we have to endure this vacuous condescending drivel?

Imagine the depths of malevolent narcissism that result in him doing impressions of himself.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

She seems to think it is amusing.

Worth remembering here that fishing is approximately 20 times more important to the Scottish economy than it is to the England/Wales economy. Scottish fishing also largely still Scottish-owned, unlike in England/Wales.

 

[brogdale]

Not generally keen on the tired old bus meme format, but..yeah...that's so fucking infantilising...

 

[Artaxerxes]

please be fair. As an exercise in how not to do Brexit the last few years comes across as possibly the mentalist way of doing it, with the alternative narrative path being why are we doing this at all blossoming into I told so. But its done.

Brexit has been an utter and total farce but sooner or later the Leave mouthpieces are going to have to actually face up to owning it and taking responsibility. May had the ERG so far up her arse she couldn't finish a cone of chips, Boris has been in charge since 2019's disaster election and throughout the process we've been told it'll be fine.

 

[Pickman's model]

Worth remembering here that fishing is approximately 20 times more important to the Scottish economy than it is to the England/Wales economy. Scottish fishing also largely still Scottish-owned, unlike in England/Wales.

when you say 20 times more important to the scottish economy, perhaps you might define 'important' - do you mean solely in terms of the money it brings in, the jobs it supports, the number of people it employs...

 

[littlebabyjesus]

please be fair. As an exercise in how not to do Brexit the last few years comes across as possibly the mentalist way of doing it, with the alternative narrative path being why are we doing this at all blossoming into I told so. But its done.

I would say it's very far from done, as the current fiasco demonstrates. Whatever shape Brexit finally takes, it will look different from this.

It saddens me the way Labour has now accepted the basic skeleton of this brexit, though, including the new restrictions on movement. All too many echoes of 1962. Tories end free movement from the Commonwealth, with the support of quite a few British people who express concerns about foreigners taking their jobs/housing. Labour initially oppose the move in a half-hearted manner, not wishing to upset those who have expressed concerns about foreigners taking their jobs/housing, only to end up endorsing it and indeed hardening its provisions when they come back into power.

 

[Pickman's model]

Brexit has been an utter and total farce but sooner or later the Leave mouthpieces are going to have to actually face up to owning it and taking responsibility. May had the ERG so far up her arse she couldn't finish a cone of chips, Boris has been in charge since 2019's disaster election and throughout the process we've been told it'll be fine.

to be fair to the erg, may could never finish a cone of chips

 

[Pickman's model]

I would say it's very far from done, as the current fiasco demonstrates. Whatever shape Brexit finally takes, it will look different from this.

It saddens me the way Labour has now accepted the basic skeleton of this brexit, though, including the new restrictions on movement. All too many echoes of 1962. Tories end free movement from the Commonwealth, with the support of quite a few British people who express concerns about foreigners taking their jobs/housing. Labour initially oppose the move in a half-hearted manner, not wishing to upset those who have expressed concerns about foreigners taking their jobs/housing, only to end up endorsing it and indeed hardening its provisions when they come back into power.

so voting for the trade agreement is to your mind simply accepting the basic skeleton of the brexit. that's really rather more than accepting the basic skeleton, that's scoffing down the entire corpse. they have associated themselves with the whole of the tory plan. so please - please stop deluding yourself that they have only accepted the basic skeleton, the broad thrust, of this brexit when they have been - especially under starmer - so very, very keen to avoid in any way saying 'we're not going along with this'

 

[gosub]

Brexit has been an utter and total farce but sooner or later the Leave mouthpieces are going to have to actually face up to owning it and taking responsibility. May had the ERG so far up her arse she couldn't finish a cone of chips, Boris has been in charge since 2019's disaster election and throughout the process we've been told it'll be fine.

Not disagreeing.
Lessons I didn't think needed learning include government leafleting the country telling people there were 3 types of Brexit then ignoring that in favour of one outlined only by colour scheme, sacking the the UK Ambassador to the EU a week after Brexit, Triggering Article 50 without consulting on what they were aiming for, calling an election - getting result that deadlocked Parliament then taking least bi-partisan approach....I could go on (it did) but there's no point