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[Kevbad the Bad]

Oh I agree, the whole debate was a shambles. The saddest thing is that I can see no benefits from Brexit coming for the people who voted for it in areas like Cornwall, Wales, the North East, the so called red wall. People who will be screwed by the likes of Johnson, Trump, Xi and the deals they reach. Even if Trump is voted out there is no way the US is going to do anybody a favour in any trade deal. These communities will feel the worst of it. I'm not an arch remainer either.

I can’t see any benefit coming to most of those who voted to leave either. All the worst aspects of neo-liberal multi-national capitalism will just be exacerbated. All the flag-waving, patriotic, xenophobic hot air will be shown to be just that.

 

[Poot]

Hold on a minute. Much though I adore taking the piss out of the Cornish, they're not actually cookie cutter copies of each other. They didn't all vote the same way or think the same way. And there is a serious situation with regard to people's livelihoods; people will actually be hungry at the end of all this, and I'm not entirely sure that I like the deckchair-and-popcorn attitude. It doesn't feel very Urban to me. Sorry.

 

[Badgers]

Hold on a minute. Much though I adore taking the piss out of the Cornish, they're not actually cookie cutter copies of each other. They didn't all vote the same way or think the same way. And there is a serious situation with regard to people's livelihoods; people will actually be hungry at the end of all this, and I'm not entirely sure that I like the deckchair-and-popcorn attitude. It doesn't feel very Urban to me. Sorry.

Quite agree

 

[SpookyFrank]

They voted for brexit

The old people did. The young folk of cornwall are basically doomed. At this rate the whole place will be a ghost town in my lifetime.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Hold on a minute. Much though I adore taking the piss out of the Cornish, they're not actually cookie cutter copies of each other. They didn't all vote the same way or think the same way. And there is a serious situation with regard to people's livelihoods; people will actually be hungry at the end of all this, and I'm not entirely sure that I like the deckchair-and-popcorn attitude. It doesn't feel very Urban to me. Sorry.

Indeed. The whole idea of describing a whole region as 'brexit voting' erases a fuckload of people.

 

[Badgers]

Indeed. The whole idea of describing a whole region as 'brexit voting' erases a fuckload of people.

Which is what our government have done all over the UK.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Which is what our government have done all over the UK.

And many on here likewise.

 

[Smangus]

Well I meant "they" as in the majority that voted Brexit there. Obviously not all the Cornish voted for it. It seems quite clear that Cornwall and the other regions will suffer for it for various reasons. I take absolutely no pleasure in that whatsoever.

 

[The39thStep]

The old people did. The young folk of cornwall are basically doomed. At this rate the whole place will be a ghost town in my lifetime.

Meanwhile in the EU negotiations over Covid 19 finance the people representing the young people in the richer northern EU states are trying to insist that younger people in the poorer southern EU states pay off a loan for any financial assistance rather than it be a grant.

 

[Raheem]

Meanwhile in the EU negotiations over Covid 19 finance the people representing the young people in the richer northern EU states are trying to insist that younger people in the poorer southern EU states pay off a loan for any financial assistance rather than it be a grant.

So you're trying to tell me Brexit didn't fix the EU?

 

[The39thStep]

So you're trying to tell me Brexit didn't fix the EU?

I really don't need to tell you that the EU cant be fixed

 

[ska invita]

They voted for brexit

And some libdem seats went Tory in 2019

 

[Pickman's model]

I really don't need to tell you that the EU cant be fixed

au contraire, as any brexiteer will tell you the eu is most definitely fixed

 

[The39thStep]

Interesting that the Dutch leading the 'frugal' four group have such a grip on benefiting from tax havens

 

[Badgers]

 

[gentlegreen]

Why the peak in 2007 ?

False teeth ?
Money laundering before the crash ?

 

[redsquirrel]

And some libdem seats went Tory in 2019

That's not correct, all six Cornish seats were Tory by 2015 so movement precedes the referendum.

But regardless are you arguing that people should have voted LD to keep out the Tories?

 

[rubbershoes]

That's not correct, all six Cornish seats were Tory by 2015 so movement precedes the referendum.

But regardless are you arguing that people should have voted LD to keep out the Tories?

Fucking yes

 

[gentlegreen]

 

[Pickman's model]

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What he is struggling to say is he will be starting to talk to efta about the UK's future relationship with them

 

[redsquirrel]

Fucking yes

Hurrah for neo-liberalism, hurrah for austerity so long as it is piss yellow.

 

[Pickman's model]

Hurrah for neo-liberalism, hurrah for austerity so long as it is piss yellow.

No one should ever vote for the golden shower

 

[brogdale]

What he is struggling to say is he will be starting to talk to efta about the UK's future relationship with them

Cue more Free United Kingdom with International Trade quips.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

The Vermin Regime vote down Clause 17 intended to protect the NHS and other public services from competition and privatisation in the Trade Bill.

 

[rubbershoes]

Hurrah for neo-liberalism, hurrah for austerity so long as it is piss yellow.

Tiresome and predictable

 

[bimble]

I don’t understand what happened yesterday, they voted to deny themselselves (parliament) any say in future trade deals? Why? Just don’t get it at all.

 

[brogdale]

The Vermin Regime vote down Clause 17 intended to protect the NHS and other public services from competition and privatisation in the Trade Bill.

Narodnaya Volya, eh?

 

[Flavour]

just a little parenthesis to say i fucking hate the dutch government

 

[redsquirrel]

Tiresome and predictable

You are a great example of the vapidness and deadendness of "anti-Toryism". The LDs enabled and promoted austerity, they backed further attacks to workers in 2015 and 2017 and in 2019 their manifesto was arguably economically to the right of the Tories. But hey they aren't Tories, they love the EU so they should be supported.

 

[Buddy Bradley]

I don’t understand what happened yesterday, they voted to deny themselselves (parliament) any say in future trade deals? Why? Just don’t get it at all.

Because it was never about taking back parliamentary sovereignty.