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The 2019 General Election

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The UK needs a Labour government but is unlikely to get one this time.
The reasons Labour is doing so badly in the polls, and probably will do badly in the election, must be examined as soon as possible in order to stop the tories next time around.
That means looking at everything and not excluding any possibilities just because they might be a problem for some of the more vocal party members.
The other option is more tory governments with no effective opposition, an especially bad one under Johnson this time.
I hate to think what Johnson will get up to over the next few years if he gets the widely predicted majority, but I can guarantee it's going to be bloody terrible.
I'm assured I'm a twat for promoting realism and wanting a Labour government, but I'm only accused because I want a sensible Labour government with workable policies that can stop tory extremism but ditching the best thing to happen to the tories in years, Corbyn.
What's better, radical policies with no hope of ever happening, or mild policies that can restore public services?
 
The UK needs a Labour government but is unlikely to get one this time.
The reasons Labour is doing so badly in the polls, and probably will do badly in the election, must be examined as soon as possible in order to stop the tories next time around.
That means looking at everything and not excluding any possibilities just because they might be a problem for some of the more vocal party members.
The other option is more tory governments with no effective opposition, an especially bad one under Johnson this time.
I hate to think what Johnson will get up to over the next few years if he gets the widely predicted majority, but I can guarantee it's going to be bloody terrible.
I'm assured I'm a twat for promoting realism and wanting a Labour government, but I'm only accused because I want a sensible Labour government with workable policies that can stop tory extremism but ditching the best thing to happen to the tories in years, Corbyn.
What's better, radical policies with no hope of ever happening, or mild policies that can restore public services?

For the last time before I put you on ignore what would your prefered 'sensible Labour government' do, what would its 'workable policies be?

Cheers - Louis MacNeice
 
Watching this QT special, on Swinson bit now. Savage tbh
Well deserved.

Short of reappointing Nick Clegg as leader, the Lib Dems couldn't have played this golden opportunity worse. If they'd broken decisively with the Con-Dem years, unilaterally stood down in Lab-Con marginals, and focused their fury on the Tories, this could've been the breakthrough that began to undo Lloyd George's decision to take his party down with him.

Instead, they voted in a leader who demanded a statue of Thatcher. The legacy of Tim lives!
 
Why would they do something that is contrary to their politic ideology and would ensure their irrelevance?

There are a maximum of two seats that the LDs can take off Labour. Both their target seats and their marginals are battles with either the Tories or SNP. If they want to win seats they need to persuade remain supporting conservative inclined voters to back them (in E&W, different dynamics in Scotland) that necessarily means being the party of Gauke, Gyimah, Lee etc.
As unjust as it is, our outdated electoral system means that the vote of a Gauke in St Ives or Cities of London & Westminster is worth more than the vote of a Walker in Hackney South or East Surrey.
 
Johnson said something disparaging about girly swots a bit ago (not connected to swinson) which swinson has been trying to appropriate as some sort of badge of honour, and failing.

Quite a few Twitterati were appropriating but now I reckon she's killed it off. Which is good cos it didn't make much sense to most people.
 
There are a maximum of two seats that the LDs can take off Labour.

Presumably these are the two seats that Sporting Index and Spreadex ‘gave back’ to Labour and took off the LDs in the readjusted bet spread after the debate last night.

And that was it as far as the debate’s impact on the betting went. All else is unchanged. If you really fancy Labour won’t do as bad as polls are suggesting, you should be buying Labour seats, now at 213. Last night you could have got 210.

Conservatives remain unchanged at 339/345 (or 338/346 on Spreadex).

LDs are 27/31. I can’t see them getting 27. But it probably won’t be many less than that, maybe not enough
less even to merit a gamble.
 
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