The 2019 General Election
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Ground Elder
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first laugh I've had since 10 pmAt me not with me I presume.
I'm only laughing because if I didn't laugh I'd cry.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
What people in the metropolitan bubble didn't understand was that it was a protest vote against the establishment, the status quo, years of austerity and so on. It was a way of destroying the system and making way for something new - a clean break from the type of government we've had for the past couple of decades. People didn't want a Tory style Brexit. That's not what they were voting for. And tonight's results confirm all of this.
I appreciate people vote Brexit because they're so angry with the establishment, I just find it a little ironic that's returning BJ a massive majority.
cupid_stunt
Where's the bloody sun?
oryx
Sitting on the bok of the day
Ken Livingstone, quoted on BBC, WTF?
I used to admire and like Livingstone when he was London mayor and previously GLC leader.
His clumsy and ill thought out comments on radio a few years ago earned him a name as an anti-Semite and a ban from the LP. Now he's criticising the way Corbyn handled AS.
Yeah Ken, his job would have been easier if it hadn't been for you blathering controversial stuff over the airwaves sounding like you were pissed.
I used to admire and like Livingstone when he was London mayor and previously GLC leader.
His clumsy and ill thought out comments on radio a few years ago earned him a name as an anti-Semite and a ban from the LP. Now he's criticising the way Corbyn handled AS.
Yeah Ken, his job would have been easier if it hadn't been for you blathering controversial stuff over the airwaves sounding like you were pissed.
emanymton
A cat politely sat on the flaming gardener.
I know you are being sarcastic but it does. It increasingly looks more and more like Labour votes going to the brexit party is a large factor driving this result.
Calamity1971
If Mr Peanut says It's okay, then it is.
Labour only just holding onto Stockton north!
teuchter
je suis teuchter
The Brexit party with their lexity Brexit aims, proposals to abolish inheritance tax and so on.
emanymton
A cat politely sat on the flaming gardener.
I don't expect you to understand it's clearly much to complicated for you.
8ball
Check your privet hedge
Yeah, this’ll fix that austerity thing.
elbows
Well-Known Member
I can see the point to that, but I think it would also have suffered from some disconnect too, because of the rather superficial and gimmicky, low-hanging fruit way the mainstream have handled this topic so far, and various forms of denial about the ramifications and the things people might have to give up (and not much promotion of the gains). But then I would say that because I'm a long time bore on this forum about joining environmental and climate issues with energy issues and a whole bunch of other political and economic stuff. And I also like to bore on about the strange ideological voids that formed in the wake of the financial/banking crisis. The Corbyn socialism thing could have benefitted more from broader attempts to fill that void with something, rather than containing the banking crisis in a special silo, too hot to handle, too big to fail. So we get incomplete stories where austerity in general is attacked, but thats not joined up to stories of the financial crisis and whatever crisis of capitalism it might have represented.
Anyway I am good at bleating on about that sort of thing, but I dont offer anything detailed to fill the void or build upon, and most of my strategies involve contexts that have not shown signs of properly emerging, such as various shocks that give the word unsustainable its teeth back, jolt peoples sense of what can, should or must be done, the future, the fragility of our current ways of doing things, etc.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Boris will Get Austerity Fixed.
elbows
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I would not claim to have expected tonights result, but I seem to be much less surprised about it than many are. I'm surprised at how surprised people are.
I guess Corbyns better than expected 2017 performance may be part of the reason. Then not taking account that something that existed in 2017 had drained away. Combined with some not taking great enough account of what the Brexit partys decisions on where to stand might mean, or not realising quite how much of a disaster waiting to happen Labours Brexit stance had become?
I guess Corbyns better than expected 2017 performance may be part of the reason. Then not taking account that something that existed in 2017 had drained away. Combined with some not taking great enough account of what the Brexit partys decisions on where to stand might mean, or not realising quite how much of a disaster waiting to happen Labours Brexit stance had become?
Nine Bob Note
Self-Isolating before it was fashionable
What time do Floppy Johnson and Raab C Brexit get their marching orders? Is it worth staying up for?
cupid_stunt
Where's the bloody sun?
I was expecting a Tory win of around 30-40, so I am somewhat surprised that it could be 80+.
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