T20 cricket world cup '22
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There's no future in England's dreaming
Peaked too early. 
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
Final is on Ch 4
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T20 World Cup final: England vs Pakistan to be shown on Channel 4 in UK
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The Octagon
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Peaked too early.
Honestly, was debating whether to mention the Eng v NZ Rugby WC semi final, played out of our skins and then gave it up to SA in the final.
Just gave me the slight fear.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Well that was, um, easy in the end.
t20 has definitely moved on. Even Kohli is borderline too slow for the format now. Williamson definitely is. Smith and Root have been dropped by their teams.
t20 has definitely moved on. Even Kohli is borderline too slow for the format now. Williamson definitely is. Smith and Root have been dropped by their teams.
surreybrowncap
“Those who believe in telekinetics, raise my hand"
The weather forecast for Melbourne on Sunday is not good.
Rain expected also on Monday's reserve day..
Let's hope not...
Rain expected also on Monday's reserve day..
Let's hope not...
Zapp Brannigan
Built like a steakhouse, handles like a bistro
Genuine 3 format batters are rare. There are plenty who play all 3, but very few who should.
The "anchor" batting role is too situation specific for T20. For example, had Hales and Buttler holed out at around 100, we'd have been incredibly grateful to have Root come in at 4; rate not a problem, only wickets could be an issue. But batting first, is 50 from 40 that good an innings or is it 20 short?
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Of all people, Stokes is the potential anchorman in this England team, as he showed vs Sri Lanka. But yes, you don't always want one. Arguably, he's given up the wrong format. If he was just going to choose the two he's best at, it should have been tests and ODIs.
Ted Striker
Foot's on the other hand
GPWM in my whatsapp group this AM
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
In the final, I expect Pakistan to bowl better than India did today. It's a toss-up really. Who knows who might get going, who might have a magic over somewhere? I'd like to see Wood back. Salt staying in for Malan probably isn't a bad idea.
Anyone who's ever been to australia in october/november would tell you it's bonkers to play a major tournament at that time of year. I guess just a clogging up of tournaments which has got a bit out of control.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Rohit Sharma (27 off 28 balls) throws his bowlers under the bus. No, Rohit, you the individual did not bat well.
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
One of England's strengths though is that because they bat so deep they can include someone like that and can vary the role depending on the circumstances, or not always use them at all. They can come at 3/4 or be dropped down the order/not bat at all depending on the circumstances - they're much more flexible in the way they've used Stokes and Malan than India/NZ are with Kohli and Williamson.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Yes, true. England's batting depth gives them all more freedom, for sure.
I like the way Ravi Bopara talks about t20 batting. He's corrected the co-commentator more than once when they've criticised shot selection. T20 is all about taking risks. You have to do it and you have to do it all the way through the innings. And players should not necessarily be criticised when they're caught on the boundary at any point in the innings.
It's come to the point now, really, when every batter needs to have high-risk shots that they are good at and that can be played to decent balls. With Buttler, it's the scoop. With Hales, it's the big shot down the ground. And you have to be prepared to play those shots early. No good unfurling them only after you've faced 20 or 30 balls. Too late. India were 62-2 after 10 overs, and arguably it is those ten overs that cost them the game, not the bowlers. That Kohli accelerated after that is all very nice, but his partnership with Sharma cost them any chance of 200.
I like the way Ravi Bopara talks about t20 batting. He's corrected the co-commentator more than once when they've criticised shot selection. T20 is all about taking risks. You have to do it and you have to do it all the way through the innings. And players should not necessarily be criticised when they're caught on the boundary at any point in the innings.
It's come to the point now, really, when every batter needs to have high-risk shots that they are good at and that can be played to decent balls. With Buttler, it's the scoop. With Hales, it's the big shot down the ground. And you have to be prepared to play those shots early. No good unfurling them only after you've faced 20 or 30 balls. Too late. India were 62-2 after 10 overs, and arguably it is those ten overs that cost them the game, not the bowlers. That Kohli accelerated after that is all very nice, but his partnership with Sharma cost them any chance of 200.
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
Yes definitely, you have to take those risks. From a team point of view in order to do that it's all about the depth and that's why you need bowlers who can bat as well as a strong middle order. Jos Buttler made the point today that he and Hales felt they could go hard early because England had Rashid at 11. That's real batting depth because he can definitely hit you a couple of sixes if he comes in towards the end of the innings.
And that's maybe Pakistan's weakness as a team - they've got top quality up front but maybe not as much to back that up with down the order.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Very definitely. Getting one or both of Rizwan and Babar early is likely to be key on Sunday.
It's a good match-up. The best batting lineup in the tournament against arguably the best bowling lineup.
Logic suggests an England win. But Pakistan and logic rarely go together.
It's a good match-up. The best batting lineup in the tournament against arguably the best bowling lineup.
Logic suggests an England win. But Pakistan and logic rarely go together.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
And it's T20. Nothing is guaranteed. Look at the IPL, all those leagues, nobody ever wins 12 out of 12 or even 11 out of 12. The shortness of the game means things going wrong (as they can for any team) cannot be rectified, so the 'best' team is never going to always win.
The finalists were beaten by Ireland and Zimbabwe.
The finalists were beaten by Ireland and Zimbabwe.
QueenOfGoths
Fuck you Dave!
I think it's a draw.
How shit would that be! Looking at the forecast they might be able to get a painful, irritating, rain interrupted reduced overs game though.
QueenOfGoths
Fuck you Dave!
Minimum of a 10 over each match!
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QueenOfGoths
Fuck you Dave!
Can't believe it's live on the telly and I'll be at fucking work.
Ah well, I have headphones and TMS
Ah well, I have headphones and TMS
WhyLikeThis
Something, something, something
Up at 7am on a Sunday. This better be a good game or I’m writing a sternly worded post to all you “authentic” T20 fanboys. 
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QueenOfGoths
Fuck you Dave!
I'm at work but have TMS in my ears!!
