SWP expulsions and squabbles

[butchersapron]

Whoah what did SLK do to deserve that?

There are stuff only the CC knows about. This matter is now closed.

 

[cesare]

There are stuff only the CC knows about. This matter is now closed.

You said earlyish in the thread that you'd sussed who they were?

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

Whoah what did SLK do to deserve that?

Where to start?!

 

[emanymton]

?????

Jo C is female!

No he's not, I should have spelt it with an E on the end though.

 

[butchersapron]

New one? Bit rubbish.

 

[SLK]

No he's not, I should have spelt it with an E on the end though.

Different one. The one without an e, who is also on the CC, is female!

 

[butchersapron]

Different one. The one without an e, who is also on the CC, is female!

...and who has diff name!

 

[butchersapron]

You said earlyish in the thread that you'd sussed who they were?

I did and i have. Let it ride for now.

 

[bolshiebhoy]

Bit rubbish.

You think? I know I should be sneering at the lack of politics but it was actually the most moving one I've read yet, simple but humbling. Nobody in the swp can be glad he is leaving. This shit is all getting very depressing.

 

[SLK]

...and who has diff name!

Jo Cardwell? Not important of course. Just clarifying who I meant.

 

[butchersapron]

You think? I know I should be sneering at the lack of politics but it was actually the most moving one I've read yet, simple but humbling. Nobody in the swp can be glad he is leaving. This shit is all getting very depressing.

You know, i think i should be agreeing with you, but i actually think that you're making it up to look like you do really care.

 

[frogwoman]

http://www.cpgb.org.uk/home/weekly-...osition-emboldened-as-demand-for-recall-grows

 

[butchersapron]

shall we go danny la rouge?

Past caring went all the way to virginia to see Dr Ralph Stanley - make an effort danny. Whilst you can.

 

[bolshiebhoy]

You know, i think i should be agreeing with you, but i actually think that you're making it up to look like you do really care.

I was about to ask you not to be an arse but fair enough I can see you might think that, I certainly can sound hackish at times. But that's a level of Machiavellian I'm not capable of, his letter genuinely depressed me, simple and heartfelt. I can just about remember being as uncomplicatedly passionate about changing the world as the author of this letter sounds.

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

Jo Cardwell? Not important of course. Just clarifying who I meant.

Shouldn't you be drinking and playng online poker or summat?

 

[butchersapron]

I was about to ask you not to be an arse but fair enough I can see you might think that, I certainly can sound hackish at times. But that's a level of Machiavellian I'm not capable of, his letter genuinely depressed me, simple and heartfelt. I can just about remember being as uncomplicatedly passionate about changing the world as the author of this letter sounds.

Ok , i will take that as it's offered. If that's as you say, fair dos.

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

I must admit as much as he defends the indefensible I think Bolshibhoy is a nice guy who means well and is on the right side

 

[The39thStep]

What's a state capper?

After all these years?

 

[cesare]

After all these years?

Well, you know what I'm like. I don't use all these terms and words irl, so tend to just ask rather than trying to commit them all to memory.

 

[The39thStep]

According to that Fb page, most of the attendees at that meeting came straight from the UK!

I see, on the Leeds SWSS statement linkde to, Elane Heffernan comes out in support of the critics. Bit surprising.

Any thing Elaine Hefferman is for I am against

 

[discokermit]

little bit irrelevant but does anyone know if old swp pre conference bulletins are published anywhere online? early nineties, to be specific. '90 - '93, to be even more specific. ta.

 

[The39thStep]

Well, you know what I'm like. I don't use all these terms and words irl, so tend to just ask rather than trying to commit them all to memory.

We all have our flaws. I can forgive.

 

[The39thStep]

Too right. You just missed John Rees describe this episode as "the single biggest implosion of the revolutionary left since the Italian left meltdown of the mid 1970s"

Me and Butchers know the analogy but who the fuck else does?

 

[The39thStep]

Interesting revelation that Rees and Callinicos tried to force the SWP people involved in the early Historical Materialism to shut it down.

a nation mourns

 

[cesare]

We all have our flaws. I can forgive.

So sorry

 

[Red Cat]

You think? I know I should be sneering at the lack of politics but it was actually the most moving one I've read yet, simple but humbling. Nobody in the swp can be glad he is leaving. This shit is all getting very depressing.

I'm finding it all increasingly disturbing and distressing. I wanted to think well of the SWP (not the CC) because I had good friends and comrades in it and that's my tendency . I don't have a head for political machinations and can't see it in others (I always have to ask Blagsta what's going on in political thrillers ). It's all a real head fuck.

 

[bolshiebhoy]

Me and Butchers know the analogy but who the fuck else does?

Lol fair point! He was addressing me personally at the time so I guess he thought I did. Probably mistook me for some other Irish comrade he remembers from happier days who was better read.

 

[The39thStep]

So sorry

Forgiven.

 

[Kidda]

I have to admit to being a bit lost with all this.

Has the accused been charged with anything by the police?

From what i'm hearing theres a bloke being accused of rape and a very distressed woman having to go through a load of ''did he, didn't he? is she lying?'' chattering.

Even by the SWP's standard this is all very horrible and fucked up.

 

[bolshiebhoy]

Ok , i will take that as it's offered. If that's as you say, fair dos.

Thanks for that, big hugs all round then