butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Not being funny but you need to go back to the start with this - there is no start i can point to, so the transcript of the DC reportmight do. Do that first.
SWP expulsions and squabbles
- Thread starter Nigel Irritable
- Start date
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Fuck off.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
"the accused"? that's the punchline from the auld scouse joke in't it?
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
Button re-education camp again for me
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
they call it a camp but there's no tents or anything. you need to construct shelters yourself.Button re-education camp again for me
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
Siberian winter
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
I had a job interview today, new suit.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
i hope it went well
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Ta! Only so many ways that can you clean shit off diggers with a high pressure hose can go. The next test is do you live near here. Not sure they bought my lie that i did.i hope it went well
Fozzie Bear
Well-Known Member
Also not being funny, but that link doesn't work for me...
bolshiebhoy
socialism leinster drink
Too right. Could be worse, we could be having to sit in branch meetings tonight trying to make sense of it all and find an answer that doesn't mean spitting on people you have respect for, whatever you decide to do!I'm finding it all increasingly disturbing and distressing. I wanted to think well of the SWP (not the CC) because I had good friends and comrades in it and that's my tendency . I don't have a head for political machinations and can't see it in others (I always have to ask Blagsta what's going on in political thrillers). It's all a real head fuck.
bolshiebhoy
socialism leinster drink
Haha thats more like it! But you'd miss me if I left and vice versa.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
not really, if truth be told
Cheers butchers, will do.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Fozzie Bear
Well-Known Member
Yep! Ta.
On reflection I might read something cheerier now and dig into that tomorrow tho...
bolshiebhoy
socialism leinster drink
Ach come here and give us a kiss you big anarchist tosser!
So anyway, where were we.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
bolshiebhoy
socialism leinster drink
"No wonder she was nationalised!" Brilliant thanks Pickman. Though Imjustbhad to explain to the missus why I was listening to the MR while she's trying to sleep.
People know this guy? http://derekthomas2010.wordpress.com/
Not sure the cc needs friends like that. And women certainly don't. Does say some pertinent things about Seymour mind.
People know this guy? http://derekthomas2010.wordpress.com/
Not sure the cc needs friends like that. And women certainly don't. Does say some pertinent things about Seymour mind.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Not sure the party needs him/her never mind the CC. What seymour bits are pertinent?
bolshiebhoy
socialism leinster drink
Proper weird blog true enough. I hadn't heard the term Seymourectomy before but you're right there actually isn't much of real pertinence behind the raving, even if I do agree that Seymour is a Trojan Horse.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
What happens when we lose? Seymours lot should be on this now. Because this is what will happen.
What happen when we win? Write it down exactly.
What happen when we win? Write it down exactly.
Nigel Irritable
Five, Ten, Fifteen Years
Mieville has a piece up on Lenin's Tomb. Limited mostly to issues of democracy but pretty decent on that.
They are starting to write down "what happens we win", but to a certain extent it's in their interests to not get too prescriptive and let everyone project their own desire onto the new more democratic SWP.
They won't be publicising what to do when they lose, right up until the point where they get expelled or give up, because it would be seen as a concession of defeat. I'd bet that some of them are discussing that behind the scenes though, because, as you say, that's what's likely to happen. But they can't put out plans because that would be immediately portrayed as "preparing for a split".
They are starting to write down "what happens we win", but to a certain extent it's in their interests to not get too prescriptive and let everyone project their own desire onto the new more democratic SWP.
They won't be publicising what to do when they lose, right up until the point where they get expelled or give up, because it would be seen as a concession of defeat. I'd bet that some of them are discussing that behind the scenes though, because, as you say, that's what's likely to happen. But they can't put out plans because that would be immediately portrayed as "preparing for a split".
Fedayn
Well-Known Member
That's written by Tom Delargy i'm sure. He's got a very tenuous grip on reality at the best of times.
barney_pig
Po-cha-na-quar-hip
Expelled by bambi, shows that even a complete dick can get it right occasionally
bolshiebhoy
socialism leinster drink
Fair enough on the Delargy fella.
Mieville's tone was very measured. Gave the game away with the footnote on feminism mind.
Mieville's tone was very measured. Gave the game away with the footnote on feminism mind.
Nigel Irritable
Five, Ten, Fifteen Years
Don't tell me he never really understood the politics too?
bolshiebhoy
socialism leinster drink
So the ISG would seem to have far less qualms about adopting the identity politics critique of leninism than Counterfire
http://internationalsocialist.org.uk/index.php/2013/01/comment-on-the-swp-crisis-sexism-the-left/
http://internationalsocialist.org.uk/index.php/2013/01/comment-on-the-swp-crisis-sexism-the-left/
bolshiebhoy
socialism leinster drink
After a close textual analysis of The City and The City yes that's my conclusion! No course it's not. Dunno, never knew him at all and rarely seen him writepolitically so can't judge. Think I can see where he's headed now mind.
Similar threads
