SWP expulsions and squabbles
- Thread starter Nigel Irritable
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I don't know if you did or not, I was saying you were mates with mates of Troy Southgate - I stand by that claim, given that you have admitted as much yourself.
Nigel
For A Degenerates' Workers State
When I was about 11yrs old at YCND meetings, I met and was good friends with Wayne Sturgeon, whom I was involved in quite a bit of political activity, from animal rights, Stop The City, Squat Party's Benefits, supporting workers at engineering plants in Crawley West Sussex such as APV; selling Direct Action, Class War, involved in local Anarcho paper Nyet Pravda etc. etc. Wayne convinced me to become involved with Libertarian Communist Discussion Group; to become ACF and now AF.
Wayne moved to Luton and I sort of kept in contact with him however he became pretty disillusioned with traditional Anarchist politics when he came into confrontation with a young woman called Lorna over Radical Feminism most controversial issue Molesworth Rapes. During this time he became a Christian.
i spent quite a lot of time with Wayne while living in Brighton, that time he seemed to have moved further from Evangelical Christianity and nearer to Quaker movement. In fact the last time that I physically saw Wayne was when he got married at Brighton Meeting House in the early nineties to his first wife.Around that time I had not kept that much in contact with Wayne as I was occupied with other pursuits, travelling, working in surveying department for Southern Water, Convoys to Bosnia and other political activity; Class War, Anti Poll Tax, AFA etc.
It was around early 2000 when through mainly ex Anarcho, Anti Folk and would be 'peoples poets' types in Brighton that I re-contacted Wayne, by telephoning him, of which he did not greet me as an old friend as I thought he would. I be-friended him on social media; mainly Facebook and we soon fell out over politics. I still get questioned if not harassed sometimes from people in Brighton; mainly ex Anarchos and hippy types living in Lewes about hardline position in not having anything to do with Wayne.
This is all I can remember on the subject. If you have any other queries please ask. However all I can say is that I didn't think that Wayne's politics were as bad as I thought, after all in mid teens we were involved as Anarchists in anti fascist stuff. However after getting back in contact with him it did not take long for me to cut myself off from him and visa versa.
Wayne moved to Luton and I sort of kept in contact with him however he became pretty disillusioned with traditional Anarchist politics when he came into confrontation with a young woman called Lorna over Radical Feminism most controversial issue Molesworth Rapes. During this time he became a Christian.
i spent quite a lot of time with Wayne while living in Brighton, that time he seemed to have moved further from Evangelical Christianity and nearer to Quaker movement. In fact the last time that I physically saw Wayne was when he got married at Brighton Meeting House in the early nineties to his first wife.Around that time I had not kept that much in contact with Wayne as I was occupied with other pursuits, travelling, working in surveying department for Southern Water, Convoys to Bosnia and other political activity; Class War, Anti Poll Tax, AFA etc.
It was around early 2000 when through mainly ex Anarcho, Anti Folk and would be 'peoples poets' types in Brighton that I re-contacted Wayne, by telephoning him, of which he did not greet me as an old friend as I thought he would. I be-friended him on social media; mainly Facebook and we soon fell out over politics. I still get questioned if not harassed sometimes from people in Brighton; mainly ex Anarchos and hippy types living in Lewes about hardline position in not having anything to do with Wayne.
This is all I can remember on the subject. If you have any other queries please ask. However all I can say is that I didn't think that Wayne's politics were as bad as I thought, after all in mid teens we were involved as Anarchists in anti fascist stuff. However after getting back in contact with him it did not take long for me to cut myself off from him and visa versa.
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meanwhile it seems ISN are encouraging all members to join RS21 and are thinking of changing their website to the-exchange... presumably the money will be split between the exchange and RS21??
http://thefreeuniversityofsheffield.tumblr.com/post/114581921782/statement-on-the-swp
It seems that the SWP are being excluded from the emerging student occupations
life would have been a lot easier and I would argue past mobilisations and campaigns more successful(in time) if they had been excluded in the past, but I'm not sure I feel comfortable with such bannings.
It seems that the SWP are being excluded from the emerging student occupations
life would have been a lot easier and I would argue past mobilisations and campaigns more successful(in time) if they had been excluded in the past, but I'm not sure I feel comfortable with such bannings.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
There was a quite bizarre series of tweets about Steve Hedley and the RMT by members of Clapham Ulras which I couldn't make sense of last night.
gamerunknown
Well-Known Member
Not an LBR member, but he'd been expelled by that point for unrelated reasons (along with most members afaik). His conviction was given as a retrospective justification once it was discovered.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Trotskyism and football lol
SpackleFrog
Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts
Oh dear.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
who he?
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Catholic Worker leader, massive Assange apologist. Supporter, sorry, supporter. His supporters were (largely) behind one of the kerfuffles at the BootCamp a couple of years back.
Of course, just because the people posting the above comment also support someone who appears to be a massive dickhead, it doesn't mean they're talking shite. But it does make me a tad suspicious
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
I hope this sort of stuff doesn't spread to the Premier League
SpackleFrog
Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts
If you're excusing Assange and telling Hedley he shouldn't be allowed to watch a football match then you're a hypocrite, simple as.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
The Assange excusers are saying Hedley should be allowed to watch the match uninterrupted.
SpackleFrog
Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts
Oh right, got mixed up there sorry. That's not great. As you were.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
There is a video on Facebook. From what I can make out there are a load of 'Ultra's' pushing, shoving and threatening Hedley and a group of bemused looking Celtic anti fascists/RMT reps (who, unlike the ultras, actually look like they could handle themselves in a row). The Ultra's then march off and stand behind the goal.
Hedley apparently attended a Clapton match earlier in the season and had beer chucked at him and was told not to come back by the Ultras for the reasons stated above on the thread.
Hedley apparently attended a Clapton match earlier in the season and had beer chucked at him and was told not to come back by the Ultras for the reasons stated above on the thread.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Is it only Assange excusers who are saying that he should be allowed to watch a match uninterrupted ?
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Quite a bit unfolding on Twitter about this
JHE
.
Is it nonsense? Is it embarrassing nonsense because Steve H is innocent or because his alleged thuggery is unrelated to football (or both)?
I have no idea whether Steve H is guilty or innocent of the thuggery he's accused of (and so I do not know whether this particular protest is well directed or not), but if you are asking whether the UK and the US are the only countries in which women protest vociferously against men bashing women, the answer is obviously no.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
I have no idea what his mates at the match think about Mr Assange.
SpackleFrog
Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts
It's not gonna be proven now is it? Short of him confessing and he says he's got medical evidence she beat him up. You might as well make up your mind to have an opinion or not rather than saying "nothing has been proven yet".
Karmickameleon
Too long in exile
Not sure if this is the right place for the link below (and if not, apologies), but the Hedley issue does pop up regularly on this thread:
http://www.janinebooth.com/node/206#.VRrGokG6p4E.facebook
http://www.janinebooth.com/node/206#.VRrGokG6p4E.facebook
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