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SWP expulsions and squabbles

This is the second time we've all been accused of being SP hacks on this thread by the way - steve dobbs did it after there was an absence of outrage at his being suspended from the SP for being an untrustworthy tosser who secretly records his comrades. IIRC this was thrown at barney_pig and Spanky Longhorn in particular, which seems fair enough if you ask me.

This time J Ed and treelover are among those getting the finger pointed at them - again, not without good reason if you ask me.
 
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I think he should take his meds.

Can't blame the poor bastard really, the Party's been totally trashed by its leadership, enough to drive most insane.

didn't see the word 'site' so I thought you were asking whether I was taking the piss when I asked if we could get carter ruck onto them lol

I suspect the problem is that they've taken too many of their meds - ones they don't have a prescription for.
 
Prince allegedly had to have ribs removed to be able to do that.

this has been variously attributed to Prince, Bowie and Marylin Manson. Whichever the sexually ambiguous androgynous popstar of the day is (it was manson in my day)

Thing is, if that really was the key to what we all really want, the ability to auto-fellate, then surely rich people would be having it done left right and centre. Which they aren't. I'm afraid it remains only a beautiful dream.
 
this has been variously attributed to Prince, Bowie and Marylin Manson. Whichever the sexually ambiguous androgynous popstar of the day is (it was manson in my day)

Thing is, if that really was the key to what we all really want, the ability to auto-fellate, then surely rich people would be having it done left right and centre. Which they aren't. I'm afraid it remains only a beautiful dream.

But if you were to lay down on your mouth for an hour or so would it feel like someone else was doing it?
 
This is the second time we've all been accused of being SP hacks on this thread by the way - steve dobbs did it after there was an absence of outrage at his being suspended from the SP for being an untrustworthy tosser who secretly records his comrades. IIRC this was thrown at barney_pig and Spanky Longhorn in particular, which seems fair enough if you ask me.

This time J Ed and treelover are among those getting the finger pointed at them - again, not without good reason if you ask me.

Just as long as Im not being called an SP hack :D
 
this has been variously attributed to Prince, Bowie and Marylin Manson. Whichever the sexually ambiguous androgynous popstar of the day is (it was manson in my day)

Thing is, if that really was the key to what we all really want, the ability to auto-fellate, then surely rich people would be having it done left right and centre. Which they aren't. I'm afraid it remains only a beautiful dream.
Steven Wells once told me that he interviewed a popster who claimed to have eaten human flesh. He wouldn't say who (he's taken it to the graaaave :( ) but I have my suspicions.
 
But if you were to lay down on your mouth for an hour or so would it feel like someone else was doing it?


You'd end up with pins and needles of the mouth.

God I'm better at discussing hypothetical sexual perversions than politics. Uncle Joe would have had me in the mines by now :(
 
They've followed it up with a guest post - by a watermelon :cool: - who makes the astoundingly perceptive observation that SP meetings are a bit boring.

The wounds are now too deep for even prince or marilyn manson to lick now :(

3. I've been to three SP meetings. The first alienated me because the entire branch were not of my class. No joking here either, they were all just not my people. Sure they were good people, hearts in the right place etc. but no, not for me. The other one was with Frogwoman and they lot seemed fine, Nigel of this parish was among them. But I was in thrall to alcohol and sketched out so bad I had to go hunt an offy down. Full shakes and incipient panic attack.



What I will never cease to praise them for is turning up on a days notice to a Uni staff picket line complete with megaphone and angry bods. Thats mint. My attempts to change 'they say cut back we say fight back' to 'they say cut back qe say fuck that' were largely ignored.
 
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They've followed it up with a guest post - by a watermelon :cool: - who makes the astoundingly perceptive observation that SP meetings are a bit boring.

The wounds are now too deep for even prince or marilyn manson to lick now :(

Wherever did this "boring" thing come from? I'm not gonna try and claim an average SP branch
meeting is exciting or owt but Ive been to a few SWP meetings and it seems mad that people who put up with fucking Weyman and the like talking for an hour without saying owt at all beyond "the EDL are a bit nasty" or "Tories are bad" would then have a go at us for being dull. Its especially fucking offensive coming from a bunch of teenagers who aren't exactly thrilling company to be around in the pub, never mind in a meeting.
 
3. I've been to three SP meetings. The first alienated me because the entire branch were not of my class. No joking here either, they were all just not my people. Sure they were good people, hearts in the right place etc. but no, not for me. The other one was with Frogwoman and they lot seemed fine, Nigel of this parish was among them. But I was in thrall to alcohol and sketched out so bad I had to go hunt an offy down. Full shakes and incipient panic attack.



What I will never cease to praise them for is turning up on a days notice to a Uni staff picket line complete with megaphone and angry bods. Thats mint. My attempts to change 'they say cut back we say fight back' to 'they say cut back qe say fuck that' were largely ignored.

I tried something similar once, inserting 'but crack' in the end but I don't think anyone even noticed :(

Not surprised it was full of m/c types down your neck of the woods tbh, was the same with all the left groups in peterborough - if you're in a tory town or one without any kind of popular left/labour movement traditions middle class hobbyists tend to dominate in my experience (granted I'm generalising wildly here - sure there are exceptions). They tend to be more doctrinaire/hackish too IME.
 
Wherever did this "boring" thing come from?

the boredom possibly?

I'm not gonna try and claim an average SP branch
meeting is exciting or owt but Ive been to a few SWP meetings and it seems mad that people who put up with fucking Weyman and the like talking for an hour without saying owt at all beyond "the EDL are a bit nasty" or "Tories are bad" would then have a go at us for being dull. Its especially fucking offensive coming from a bunch of teenagers who aren't exactly thrilling company to be around in the pub, never mind in a meeting.

Irrespective of whether or not SWP meetings (or any other) are more or less boring, I don't think it's possible to defend SP meetings from that particular charge.

They've clearly never been to any of the ones where I use cultural reference points (mostly fart jokes and examples from south park or who lyrics) to make political analogies. They'd not have dared make that charge if they had :mad:
 
it's boring if you know what you are fighting for. Its boring if its just sloganeering around subjects you already have a handle on. Its boring when you try to talk about structural things and get told 'we often have people well read trying to tell us' (this actually happened to me. It might be because I'm a lecturing cock tho). It's boring when the meetings conclusion is 'how many papers will you buy'. It's boring when the vision is limited to vote fucking TUSC. I've got loads of time for the SP, out of all our far left alternatives they make bloody sure to ground themselves in actual community and workplace struggles. But it isn't working. Obviously I have an alternative. Worship me. Actually bow to me as your god-king. I will be kind.
 
it's boring if you know what you are fighting for. Its boring if its just sloganeering around subjects you already have a handle on. Its boring when you try to talk about structural things and get told 'we often have people well read trying to tell us' (this actually happened to me. It might be because I'm a lecturing cock tho). It's boring when the meetings conclusion is 'how many papers will you buy'. It's boring when the vision is limited to vote fucking TUSC. I've got loads of time for the SP, out of all our far left alternatives they make bloody sure to ground themselves in actual community and workplace struggles. But it isn't working. Obviously I have an alternative. Worship me. Actually bow to me as your god-king. I will be kind.

The alternative is the workers bomb. I'm only involved with the SP for entrist purposes.
 
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