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SWP expulsions and squabbles

Don't you know that the professional university educated white collar workers (as exemplified by the prof) are the new proletariat
To be fair I think he argues that while some uni lectures are now working class he is not one of them.
 
it did look a rather shabby, knackered table, not like the old days. It was also a bit odd when the piece was ostensibly about the danger of Martin Powell-Davis winning the presidency, as the SWP still back Blower, dont they?

Not only do they still back Blower, they stood a candidate in the very recent national executive elections, in alliance with Blower and the "left" bureaucrats, specifically against MPD to get him off the executive. It didn't work, but it's a very clear indication of where the SWP are in the NUT - right up the bureacracy's back passage.
 
Interesting that a couple of my friends who have never been involved in left wing politics are now Liking RS21 on Facebook. It appears that RS21 are winning the struggle through the mechanism of the sponsored post, which must be much more agreeable than the paper sale.

What's a sponsored post?
 
What's a sponsored post?
A post that they've paid for to reach lots of people. Effectively an ad. You can target them at certain demographics, eg age groups, towns, interests, etc. If my friends are anything to go by they've gone for middle aged men in northern towns with a strong interest in real ale, hard drugs and shouting pointlessly at the television.
 
A post that they've paid for to reach lots of people. Effectively an ad. You can target them at certain demographics, eg age groups, towns, interests, etc. If my friends are anything to go by they've gone for middle aged men in northern towns with a strong interest in real ale, hard drugs and shouting pointlessly at the television.
Phew, the lack of television is my saviour.
 
What does this mean? Your tradition tried to for 60 years and found no echo. So now you fight each other. The class, well they're elsewhere. If you find non answer, why is your response - be right a bit more shoutier?

Do you want some moralist stuff about not giving up not never, well you drive more people into giving up than you ever enthused. I was here when it started, was disgusted at the way you behaved, decided never to touch it. That's not opportunistic. I was right.
you were wrong, the fight continues. Don't think I shout, generally quite talky.

The way I behaved? Don't be daft. There was no evidence in the public domain either way. In fact the honest answer on the basis of the public shot was my position. never, never think you have a moral high ground on me. I defended a position, was shown the stupidity of it by someone, not you, in the know. Was I right to say bad sex? No. But that's only cause someone who knew put me straight. You and I knew nothing.
 
you were wrong, the fight continues. Don't think I shout, generally quite talky.

The way I behaved? Don't be daft. There was no evidence in the public domain either way. In fact the honest answer on the basis of the public shot was my position. never, never think you have a moral high ground on me. I defended a position, was shown the stupidity of it by someone, not you, in the know. Was I right to say bad sex? No. But that's only cause someone who knew put me straight. You and I knew nothing.
How did they know the truth, and everyone else, including smiths victims, did not?
 
This - literally- is the dark side of the internet.

The guy who dreamed it up is an ex-Swoppie full timer who went with the ISN. He's one of these characters who is utterly toxic on the internet (he goes by the name Keith Watermellon on facebook and twitter). The laugh is when he was still in the SWP fold he was one of their notorious internet howler monkey brigade (think of people like Rabbit Worrier here or "The Undertaker" and "ll" on Socialist Unity) whose shit flinging appearances on any forum mildly critical of the SWP quickly reduced it to a smoking radioactive ruin. He likes to kid himself he's crossed some sort of Rubicon since he's left the SWP but the reality is he's exactly the same in his on-line interactions, he's just wearing a different hat and has broadened the number of enemies to lambaste.
 
Eh? He left before the SWP even started complaining about the internet (when Andy W was expelled), so I'm not sure how he could have been an internet howler monkey.
 
Is it?! I saw one appear on fb at the same time the other one disappeared, so put two and two together...

I'm not 100% sure who 'Keith Watermelon' is but I do know he was an SWP member just a few years back. He was/is part of the Through The Scary Door group blog.
 
how do peeps find Counterfire? they are ex swp also, but left before the rape crisis. i get the impression that all these ex swp groups are, for people who do not come from their tradition, still too 'swappie', ie they do things in the same way as the swp and think in the same way as the swp. i cayn't tell whether counterfire is a party or a website or what.
 
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