discokermit
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what new leadership?
SWP expulsions and squabbles
- Thread starter Nigel Irritable
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Bakunin
I am Noodle's bitch.
Since German and Rees departed, among others.
discokermit
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oh. right. not that new.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
So, if this is true, what are they going to do about the people who carried out the original investigation and came to the exact opposite conclusion on the basis of the same evidence? Or, if new evidence was presented what are they going to do about the same people who carried out the original investigation either being so incompetent they couldn't uncover it or actually covering it up themselves? I guess the answer will go something like none of your business - thereby demonstrating that not a single lesson was learnt.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Ah right. I get it now. It did seem odd that they would return to the other cases knowing full well it would leave them open to the above questions.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Of passing interest, Andy Newman has been selected as the Labour prospective parliamentary candidate for Chippenham. No chance of winning but a good labour candidacy will pull back the labour supporters who always vote lib-dem there and put them over the line last time. Don't expect them to do much work in all honesty.
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Is he going to create the Chippenham Democratic Republic?
barney_pig
Po-cha-na-quar-hip
A good labour candidate is not andy Newman
bolshiebhoy
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I clicked on this update thinking people were talking about the actual news today that was relevant to this thread. And instead people are discussing Newman?!
emanymton
A cat politely sat on the flaming gardener.
You do like to tease don't you.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
You mean the news that no one actually knows about? Knock yourself out.
bolshiebhoy
socialism leinster drink
I'm sure Newman will take a moment out of the Chippenham campaign to share the transcript from today's SWP NC and then we'll all know 
benedict
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There are plenty of questions you've failed to answer and points you've ignored on the thread if you want to get back on topic.
bolshiebhoy
socialism leinster drink
Ok fair enough. Your question a page ago re who would be convinced being a case in point I suppose. who knows. But at this stage what would be enough? It's always been about more than delta and now thank god it's resolving into proper debates beyond that awful case. The opposition are making their case for an ISO take on Cliff on feminism etc. Good on them at least it's something sane people can debate.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
I take it the statement of intent was what bb got all excited about but refused to tell anyone about?
barney_pig
Po-cha-na-quar-hip
Jon (Portsmouth)remains craven
Nigel Irritable
Five, Ten, Fifteen Years
The CC perspectives piece is 60% boilerplate, 30% exaggeration, 10% meat. The meat being yet another declaration that it's time to draw a line under the big dispute, accompanied on this occasion by an explicit declaration that there will be disciplinary action taken against post-conference oppositionalists.
The main opposition piece is clearly geared at whatever "middle ground" might remain and soft elements on the CC side. It's immediate followed by a string up the oppositionists piece signed by the frothing element of the CC side. Then by a lets all be friends piece by a handful of vacillators.
The main opposition piece is clearly geared at whatever "middle ground" might remain and soft elements on the CC side. It's immediate followed by a string up the oppositionists piece signed by the frothing element of the CC side. Then by a lets all be friends piece by a handful of vacillators.
Nigel Irritable
Five, Ten, Fifteen Years
The various rank and file member's contributions about the state of union organisation and changes in the economy are marred by a lamentable tendency to cast about for precedents in the writings of one or other dead SWP guru, but some predictable problems aside, actually lay the basis for what could be a surprisingly interesting discussion. I don't really expect that sort of thing in these bulletins, so hats off to those who are doing a bit of thinking.
Nigel Irritable
Five, Ten, Fifteen Years
There's also a slightly Weekly Workerish element to the bulletin: I doubt if other left wing organisations have ever been mentioned so often in a single SWP bulletin ever. The Socialist Party, Counterfire, the ISG and the ISN appear over and over again and various other groups, like the AWL and Lutte Ouvriere, appear on occasion too.
Nigel Irritable
Five, Ten, Fifteen Years
And finally, it seems like a sign of the times that nobody here gives a shit. There would have been a feeding frenzy here six months ago.
Nigel Irritable
Five, Ten, Fifteen Years
Normally, I suspect someone who has been asked to do so by a fulltimer, probably whoever is responsible for circulation etc.
A more interesting questions is what sort of person sits down and reads a full page article about Manchester district's paper sales the whole way through?
The subs? (A good place to check for errors in the last paragraph but three.)
E2A: And who would let a full page on paper sales into the paper?
How much am I bid for a piece on paint drying?
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discokermit
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i started reading it but i got bored.
Das Uberdog
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that Manc paper sales one ended on an amazing trill...
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