SWP expulsions and squabbles
- Thread starter Nigel Irritable
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At least all the creeping feminism hasn't made Callinicos lose his sense of "humour" :
https://twitter.com/alex_callinicos/statuses/353826368099856384 (TW - domestic violence)
https://twitter.com/alex_callinicos/statuses/353826368099856384 (TW - domestic violence)
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
Anyone been following this btw? Someone's got a minor axe to grind with the SP on the falling rate of profit theory, and was banned from the summer school because of it!
http://69.195.124.91/~brucieba/
I'm kind of feeling sympathetic to the SP leadership on this one tbh as the guy seems a bit of a loon. There are serious issues about democracy in the party though (which is a big reason why I left).
http://69.195.124.91/~brucieba/
I'm kind of feeling sympathetic to the SP leadership on this one tbh as the guy seems a bit of a loon. There are serious issues about democracy in the party though (which is a big reason why I left).
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
"Preferring the Alpha male to the Delta variety?"
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
I said it tooI think he's blocked me
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
Cesareurban
audiotech
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I like his humour, not a trait I saw much off during the Militant phase. Invite him over here.
Fedayn
Well-Known Member
Bruce is a long time CWI member and whilst he's always had a rather nuanced approach to life he's not a loon imho. The habit of some in the CWI to refer to their detractors as 'loons' etc seems to have rubbed off on you froggie.
Matt Dobson however is a bit of an odd character....
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
Oh ok fair enough I haven't read enough of the blog to have been following the dispute in much depth. He does have a point with some of the things he's talking about (banning him from the summer school is a bit out of order) but he seemed a bit obsessive about that one issue at first glance. I'll need to have a proper look.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
‘’We know you have been in contact with ‘’enemies’’ of the CWI like Mick Brooks ( I contacted him to buy his book) and Andrew Kliman (who is to be a honoured guest at Socialism 2013) who is a state capitalist etc. etc. etc.’’ he just went on and on. Didn’t he realise that there were members of the youth present who probably didn’t know who Mick was and one comrade was looking very uneasy and I’m not surprised given Matt’s ”tone” (monotonous, flat and devoid of any emotion). He certainly wasn’t smiling and had a dead pan expression a bit like an overworked probation officer. Funny as he is usually more expressive and does have a sense of humour.
this bit is lol though
this bit is lol though
Nigel Irritable
Five, Ten, Fifteen Years
That's slightly bizarre. Particularly when, according the always unreliable Weekly Worker, they've published his letters repeatedly, haven't told him to take down his blog, and have agreed to publish a longer debate with him and hold a face to face one at a members meeting. Dunno why they would then have a problem with him arguing his views in Belgium.
Although, having just looked at his blog and the rather personal remarks he makes in public about other members, I can see how he might have aggravated people. Maybe they just don't want to spend a week drinking with him.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
yeah, i'm staying well out of this one i think. the personal remarks is why i thought he was a bit nuts initially ...
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
you say that now but you'll change your mind.
Nigel Irritable
Five, Ten, Fifteen Years
Debates of this kind aren't particularly common in the SP either, but I don't think that there's any problem in having them. In fact, they serve a useful purpose as long as involvement in them is voluntary and enthusiasts for them don't keep going on and on about them at inappropriate times. Understanding what causes capitalist crises is actually an important issue for socialists.
oskarsdrum
Active Member
good on the SP/CWI for trying to kick the LTRPF obsession into touch. that must be the single biggest cause of 'revolutionary' delusions amongst socialists. all for open debate but that guy looks like he could derail any discussion within seconds! (I think Kliman & his buddies aren't entirely wrong, but the bits they're right on are a bit useless as far as political action is concerned)
andysays
Love and solidarity
Good to see you two misogynists can lay off poor Laurie Penny for a minute and attack the Marxist academic aristocracy
BK Double Stack
Reconstructed Marcyite
Looks like weeks not months: http://cpgb.org.uk/home/weekly-worker/online-only/swp-crisis-cc-lashes-out
JHE
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Social Workers' Holy See See said:
I asked a few advanced workers what they thought of the whole sorry tale. "Who?" asked one. "What?" asked another. A third just furrowed his brow for a moment, shook his head briefly and then changed the subject. None seemed to care. Tsk. I may have to demote them to the backward workers class.
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