Nigel Irritable
Five, Ten, Fifteen Years
You're going soft now. How can you avoid expelling these eclectic intellectuals who never really grasped "the tradition"? Have the courage of your convictions man.
SWP expulsions and squabbles
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You're going soft now. How can you avoid expelling these eclectic intellectuals who never really grasped "the tradition"? Have the courage of your convictions man.
Thanks.
Quite.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
I am so bored, I am half:
a: watching Spain v Puerto Rico at baseball
b: looking over a list of who's online now. Funnily enough, by far the most popular thread for 'guest' to be watching is this one. Over a dozen right now!
Hello all of you (bourgeois media, excepted)
a: watching Spain v Puerto Rico at baseball
b: looking over a list of who's online now. Funnily enough, by far the most popular thread for 'guest' to be watching is this one. Over a dozen right now!
Hello all of you (bourgeois media, excepted)
J Ed
Follow Back Pro Expropriation
How on earth are you watching Spain v Puerto Rico at baseball? Streaming?
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Eurosport2 - channel 525 on Virgin
One_Stop_Shop
Well-Known Member
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...missing-attack-claim-by-activist-8527208.html
Why haven't the Socialist Party or the RMT suspended Steve Hedley while the investigation is carried out. Especially as the police have said they would have prosecuted if the six month limit hadn't been passed. People are suspended in workplaces for far less serious accusations. What reason does the Socialist Party give for not suspending him? I'm presuming they haven't as no SP member will answer the question and he is still listed as a "prominent person" on their website.
Also given it is a fact he has told a young woman on facebook that she looks like a bulldog swamped by a wasp, told her he can't tell whether she's a man or woman, told her that she needs to go out there and get a partner and mocked her mental health issues, wouldn't that alone be enough to take some action over in terms of the Socialist Party, given he did make those comments while a member. Or is that a non-issue?
Why haven't the Socialist Party or the RMT suspended Steve Hedley while the investigation is carried out. Especially as the police have said they would have prosecuted if the six month limit hadn't been passed. People are suspended in workplaces for far less serious accusations. What reason does the Socialist Party give for not suspending him? I'm presuming they haven't as no SP member will answer the question and he is still listed as a "prominent person" on their website.
Also given it is a fact he has told a young woman on facebook that she looks like a bulldog swamped by a wasp, told her he can't tell whether she's a man or woman, told her that she needs to go out there and get a partner and mocked her mental health issues, wouldn't that alone be enough to take some action over in terms of the Socialist Party, given he did make those comments while a member. Or is that a non-issue?
It's a good summary of arguments.
You're watching the WBC! Nice! You should get into baseball - awesome sport.
SpineyNorman
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No it's not a non-issue. I can't answer for anyone else but the reason why I've not commented on any of those things yet is because I've queried them myself and am waiting for a response. That's what people who take these things seriously do - try and get the known facts before jumping to conclusions. Obviously that's not necessary when all you're bothered about is using it to score political points over a group you've got a bizarre and slightly unhealthy obsession with.
SpineyNorman
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Yes.
I nearly said the Nats, but they seem so obvious. I think they'll win 2 or 3 of the next 7 or 8 WS - though I love Strasburg who is out (isn't he?) Anyway, sorry for derail. It's quite literally my favourite sport (even ahead of football).
Arod hasn't recovered from realising that people are now actually testing for PEDs. And he can't use PEDs to come back. He'll be the 12th best 3rd baseman in the league this year when he comes back - on 30 mill.
SpineyNorman
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Baseball is like rounders only not as good.
One_Stop_Shop
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I haven't got a particular issue with the Socialist Party. They are no worse than the SWP for instance. I have got an issue with the way the far left groups have become ever more isolated from the working class and the way those groups go about things.
Fair enough if you are waiting for a response but how long does it take to look in to the fact that he made these comments? I couldn't care a less what far left group he was a member of, I'd say the same thing whatever group it was. Making sexist and misogynistic comments can surely be met with a swift response? The facts are known. He wrote the comments.
I don't know if the RMT knows that he made such comments, but if they do know, they should also act on it. If someone made those comments in most workplaces, it would be a disciplinary offence, and probably gross misconduct, and rightly so.
bolshiebhoy
socialism leinster drink
What can I say, he stayed in my house in Dublin once when I was younger. Drank all our best whiskey mind, but he was the only SWPer my mum, who used to be an RTE film critic, trusted to say anything cultural at the time.
The SP is like the SWP only...
SpineyNorman
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The facts might be known to you but they're not to me. Was it on facebook? Have you got a link to the post/comment?
This stuff is serious, it's not a game - this is peoples' lives we're talking about. I can't really just say some anonymous bloke on the internet who seems to have a weird obsession with the SP says he made some dodgy comments can I?
I suspect they'll be dealing with the far, far more serious complaint before they even look at that anyway.
Out of interest, what would you do in their shoes? There's been a police investigation (which is what you said should have happened with Delta) so that one's not an option here. Serious question cos unless she takes civil proceedings I just don't know what they can do. And until I hear back I don't know what they are doing.
The RMT will have to make some kind of statement I would imagine, I want to know what they have to say about it too.
I'm waiting to get as much information as possible before I make any kind of assessment. Don't you think that's how it should be? Or would you rather we just assumed his guilt right now with hardly any information whatsoever?
SpineyNorman
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bolshiebhoy
socialism leinster drink
MT and MG's piece is up now. Strong stuff indeed. But some things are hinted at rather than made clear. I mean what does this mean: "In just a few weeks, the desire to analyse how we got to this point has resulted in many faction members, both longstanding and new cadre, starting the process of attempting to fill some theoretical gaps." What gaps and where can we see their conclusions?
discokermit
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did he get his guitar out?
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