SWP expulsions and squabbles

[ViolentPanda]

They should have a belt system for class warriors, like with karate. Just to avoid any confusion.

Top Dan being a string belt, a la Compo.

 

[ViolentPanda]

They aren't leading it, no. Hence the constant haranguing by the CC about how backward most of the party are and how behind the class they are.

That haranguing is a fairly standard "management" tactic, rather than a quantification by the CC of the political development of the membership.

 

[ViolentPanda]

So, they in fact offer no logic as to why or how they are sort of more advanced in the future but not right now (nor why by rights they should be) - beyond shouting at kids?

They're not shouting, they're "encouraging the political development of, and battle-hardening, the cadres".

 

[barney_pig]

In sainsburys when a 'colleague' seriously fucks up the management 'offer support and encouragement', this is the last step before sackings. Euphemisms I am in you.

 

[butchersapron]

Interesting revelation that Rees and Callinicos tried to force the SWP people involved in the early Historical Materialism to shut it down.

bump on that

 

[articul8]

i thought that was known already? Was always going to be a potential challenge so long as it solicited contributions from a wide range of marxist and marxisant contributors.

 

[butchersapron]

i thought that was known already? Was always going to be a potential challenge so long as it solicited contributions from a wide range of marxist and marxisant contributors.

Known to who? And known that they wanted to shut it down?

Challenge? To what? To ISJ? Really? You must read some awful shite. They're are not even trying to do the same things.

 

[Pickman's model]

In sainsburys when a 'colleague' seriously fucks up the management 'offer support and encouragement', this is the last step before sackings. Euphemisms I am in you.

Similarly football clubs offer managers their vote of confidence

 

[tony.c]

And Prime Ministers say they support and have full confidence in a Minister, which means they are about to be forced to resign.

 

[Nigel Irritable]

According to someone on SU, the CC are now trumpeting that they have 500 signatories to their statement, as compared to a little over 400 for the IDOOP faction.

Not many for a party of "7,000" it has to be said, even allowing for the confused, the thus far neutral, the undecided and the semi-detached.

 

[KeeperofDragons]

That haranguing is a fairly standard "management" tactic, rather than a quantification by the CC of the political development of the membership.

Yep I see it a lot where I work it has now become man management by disciplinary which sounds like by the talk of lynchings is the way the CC have been leaning more and more in recent years

 

[butchersapron]

According to someone on SU, the CC are now trumpeting that they have 500 signatories to their statement, as compared to a little over 400 for the IDOOP faction.

Not many for a party of "7,000" it has to be said, even allowing for the confused, the thus far neutral, the undecided and the semi-detached.

Did lyndsey ever stop her direct debit?

 

[DotCommunist]

if stalincos is saying the students have 'lost there way' which is code for 'are totally wrong here' thats seems arse about face to me- the students here have shown more backbone over the issue than some. What goes through his head.

 

[electric.avenue]

PD are producing a series of 25/50/75/98% class conscious badges and iron on patches as we speak. (100% reserved for the founders i'm afraid)

A bit like being in the Brownies - you could collect badges as you reached ever higher levels of advancement. Plus badges for selling papers, collecting money, etc.

 

[butchersapron]

A bit like being in the Brownies - you could collect badges as you reached ever higher levels of advancement. Plus badges for selling papers, collecting money, etc.

Please be aware, you may be asked to remove your badges with Rees' face on.

 

[frogwoman]

And if you haven't got a badge then you're just a backward layer.

 

[DotCommunist]

A bit like being in the Brownies - you could collect badges as you reached ever higher levels of advancement. Plus badges for selling papers, collecting money, etc.

Special badges for the veg wedge, advanced chuckleism badge- skies the limit relly

 

[TremulousTetra]

Have they split yet?

 

[chilango]

Have they split yet?

No. They're going from strength to strength.

There's never been a better time to be a socialist.

Brilliant!

 

[mk12]

Have they split yet?

It's like someone on the Titanic saying "have we sunk yet?" over and over.

 

[chilango]

According to someone on SU, the CC are now trumpeting that they have 500 signatories to their statement, as compared to a little over 400 for the IDOOP faction.

Not many for a party of "7,000" it has to be said, even allowing for the confused, the thus far neutral, the undecided and the semi-detached.

My guess is that'd be about right. They can only have 1,000 to 1,200 active members these days.

 

[DrRingDing]

Have they split yet?

 

[butchersapron]

Have they split yet?

This is supposed to be triumphal. These are the material they work with.

 

[DotCommunist]

happy was that day when kilroy silk overstepped the mark and revealed him self as a naked islamaphobe. The orange cunt

 

[electric.avenue]

It's like someone on the Titanic saying "have we sunk yet?" over and over.

If watching the swp disintegrate is like watching the Titanic sink, I must be one of the people watching horrified from the lifeboats.

 

[The39thStep]

In sainsburys when a 'colleague' seriously fucks up the management 'offer support and encouragement', this is the last step before sackings. Euphemisms I am in you.

support as in' like a hanged man'?

 

[The39thStep]

If watching the swp disintegrate is like watching the Titanic sink, I must be one of the people watching horrified from the lifeboats.

The Titanic only had enough lifeboats for about a third of their passengers.

 

[emanymton]

It seems that the latest leak wasn't from the person who wrote it. It was circulated to a dozen or so oppositionists as an internal thing before someone sent it on to the WW. As imposs1904 mentioned earlier it's much too easy for the CC to work out who wrote it

Aren't we pretty much told who wrote it in the text itself?

 

[sihhi]

It's the quality of the experience that counts!

His dad fought for the KKE, doesn't that count for something, he had a head-start, it's natural Callinicos is number one.

 

[DotCommunist]

The Titanic only had enough lifeboats for about a third of their passengers.

and the officers got prime place on it. analogy holds!