Sudanese coup d'etat.

[tim]

The Sudanese army have arrested members of the government, almost immediately after a visiting US envoy flies out after having met leaders of the army.

Sudan’s army seizes power in coup and detains prime minister

Military declares state of emergency and gunfire reported as protesters flood Khartoum streets

www.theguardian.com

I hope the people going back on the street can stop this, in the same way they brought down the military two years ago

 

[dessiato]

If the Rapid Support Forces are on the ground there’s more shit to come there.

I hope my Sudanese friends are safe.

 

[AmateurAgitator]

Anarchist banners have been seen on the streets of a number of Sudanese cities as protests grow against the Military Junta. Protests have occurred in various regions of the South in the last few days. Widespread demonstrations began over two months ago against the military coup of October 25th in Sudan in which 48 people died.

Source: Agência de Notícias Anarquistas (A.N.A.).

 

[AmateurAgitator]

ACG article about the uprising in Sudan

The uprising in Sudan - Anarchist Communist Group

Following the military coup on 25th October 2021, mass street protests took place in Sudan. At least 57 protestors were killed by the military during these demonstrations. The police and military have brutally attacked tens of thousands of protestors, using tear gas and baton charges. At least...

www.anarchistcommunism.org

 

[dessiato]

I’m very concerned about my Sudanese friends’ safety. Some of them are in the areas where there has been a lot of trouble, I’ve not heard from them for weeks.

 

[AmateurAgitator]

I’m very concerned about my Sudanese friends’ safety. Some of them are in the areas where there has been a lot of trouble, I’ve not heard from them for weeks.

I'm sorry to hear that dessiato. I hope they are ok.

 

[JimW]

Rival military factions in open fight: Sudan's army and rival force clash, wider conflict feared

 

[teqniq]

Shortish thread with some useful links giving some insight/background to current events:

 

[teqniq]

Post from a Sudanese anarchist group:

Dispatch from Khartoum #10 | International - Organise Magazine

We are not neutral, because we are in a peaceful battle since the era of the ousted al-Bashir until now, against the militarization of the country and the control of guns on the streets.

organisemagazine.org.uk

 

[teqniq]

Informative article:

In Sudan, a Deadly Reckoning for Rival Forces

Fighting broke out between the Sudanese army and the Rapid Support Forces over the weekend following weeks of tension between the two. They disagree on how the country should transition to civilian rule following the 2021 coup.

newlinesmag.com

 

[teqniq]

Putting out the fire with gasoline:

Libyan Militia and Egypt’s Military Back Opposite Sides in Sudan Conflict

 

[Pickman's model]

Putting out the fire with gasoline:

Libyan Militia and Egypt’s Military Back Opposite Sides in Sudan Conflict

Happy days are here again

 

[chilango]

Worth noting that the RSF's origins are in the Janjaweed who themselves emerged from ethnic paramilitaries that the Khartoum regime used during the civil war against the SPLA. In return the militias were allowed to abduct Southern women and children and sell them as slaves. When I was there this was known to be happening along the supply route to Juba (which was held by Khartoum at the time).

None of this stopped Western (and Chinese) corporations from working with this kind of group if it led to the "clearing" of oil producing areas

 

[teqniq]

When I call relatives in Sudan, I don’t know if they will still be alive. The world must not look away | Mohamed Osman

 

[chilango]

Interesting reading about the evacuation efforts. When I was there the British Embassy told me in no uncertain terms, but off the record, that they didn't want me there and wouldn't help if the shit hit the fan.

When the shit did eventually hit the fan, they didn't help. I didn't ask them to either. I sought aid elsewhere.

 

[teqniq]

The UK has apparently evacuated embassy staff only everyone else has been left to fend for themselves. Absolutely shameful.

 

[LDC]

Think it's a much bigger job than other countries have, there's an estimated 4,000 UK passport holders there. Embassy staff are government employees so arguably a priority ethically and definitely legally.

Isn't a evacuation plan in progress, news seems to say something in the offing? It's not the type of thing where you can just turn up and wave people onto a plane.

 

[eatmorecheese]

There are UK military in the Port Sudan area 'considering options' apparently. India, Japan, Italy etc have managed to get their nationals and the French even took some UK nationals.

UK citizens get an automated email response. Hashtag world-beating.

 

[kenny g]

The UK has apparently evacuated embassy staff only everyone else has been left to fend for themselves. Absolutely shameful.

The "stay indoors" message keeps reminding me of Grenfell. The constant othering of the British citizens in Sudan there is pitiful whether from references to "many of them have large families so it is particularly difficult" to the minister , Andrew Mitchell, stating, we are looking at helping both dual citizens and mono citizens as if that is something to be proud of. Having dual citizenship shouldn't mean that my children are lesser citizens than me.

 

[kebabking]

The UK has apparently evacuated embassy staff only everyone else has been left to fend for themselves. Absolutely shameful.

More nuanced than that - diplomats from most states have been evacuated from Khartoum, because there was an agreement with the local forces that that could happen. There was not a wider agreement that all the ex-pats could leave in the same way. It was explored, but local agreement wasn't going to happen in the immediate term.

There are other plans being explored by a number of countries to get their ex-pats out by other routes - that is work in progress, as well as determining whether it's necessary.

Time will show how it pans out. It's unlikely to be over.

 

[LDC]

France evacuated <400, Germany 300 or so, Spain 100.

All a couple of planeloads. Evacuating 2-4,000 UK citizens is a massive operation which if done in a rush and fucked up likely would put them at more risk than staying put for the moment.

 

[kenny g]

France evacuated <400, Germany 300 or so, Spain 100.

All a couple of planeloads. Evacuating 2-4,000 UK citizens is a massive operation which if done in a rush and fucked up likely would put them at more risk than staying put for the moment.

I have very little faith that there is a cunning plan other than damage control and hand washing. If they were all white school kids from Hampshire they would be lifted out of there but in fact as British citizens of a different hue they will be left on their own. It's grotesque.

 

[Bingoman]

if your a citizen of another country and need to get out but is stuck how could another country get the out without going door to door?

Would the person have to try an get to the airport or docks for example by themselves?

 

[not-bono-ever]

Was gonna comment similarly- france always seems to be on the ball with getting its nationals out and it’s not like there was no warning about the area getting frisky. Then again, the french do have lots of practical experience of evacuating their own since the end of WW2. Numbers an issue as well I suppose

 

[chilango]

My guess is that, beyond any likely incompetence, racism or sheer disinterest, British citizens are more likely (than say Germans or French) to be scattered around the country as part of local communities rather than moving in purely ex-pat circles.

 

[not-bono-ever]

There used to be a contact cascade in place at UKG outposts in ropey places some time ago for this kind of event. I’m a bit out of touch with the latest UKG outpost practice but doesn’t look like there is one in place - can anyone advise on this ?

 

[Sue]

A friend's brother (British) was evacuated from Sudan (or possibly South Sudan) some years ago. Think he was attached to some UK Government thing.

Things had kicked off in the area and a load of American troops turned up and they were told they were leaving immediately. (Not quite sure what the story was -- he kept it pretty quiet for some time as he knew his elderly parents would freak out.)

 

[kenny g]

I do wonder whether memories of General Gordon are ratling around the FO Charles George Gordon - Wikipedia

 

[not-bono-ever]

My guess is that, beyond any likely incompetence, racism or sheer disinterest, British citizens are more likely (than say Germans or French) to be scattered around the country as part of local communities rather than moving in purely ex-pat circles.

thats a good point- naturalised UK citizens with Sudan ties who are back in the 'hood for visiting etc wont be part of the expat community

 

[dessiato]

When I lived there I was told that, in the event of an emergency, I’d get a phone call to tell me. I was advised to have a grab bag ready at all times. It was clear that it was unlikely that we’d be evacuated immediately, but that they would expect us to get to the embassy from where we’d be evacuated.

That‘s ok if you can get to the embassy.