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Just watched this. It's quite a hard watch as generally everyone the girl comes across is a twat to her, decent cast for a straight to DVD type movie. There's not a whole lot of Trek to it, but will appeal to fans of the franchise in one way or another I think.

 
Just watched DS9 "Trials and Tribble-ations" where they time travel to the TOS Enterprise during the Tribble episode! It's fab!!!

They took part in the bar brawl scene, and the scene where Kirk asks "who threw the first punch?" Most of the scene splicing works really well. (The only bit that doesn't is when Sisko gets to meet Kirk on the bridge. But I'm going to let that pass).

Of course the DS9 crew asked Worf about the way the Klingons looked back then: "We do not discuss it with outsiders."
 
Just watched DS9 "Trials and Tribble-ations" where they time travel to the TOS Enterprise during the Tribble episode! It's fab!!!

They took part in the bar brawl scene, and the scene where Kirk asks "who threw the first punch?" Most of the scene splicing works really well. (The only bit that doesn't is when Sisko gets to meet Kirk on the bridge. But I'm going to let that pass).

Of course the DS9 crew asked Worf about the way the Klingons looked back then: "We do not discuss it with outsiders."
I laughed a lot when Odo was ripping him about klingons hating tribbles 'do they still sing songs about the great tribble hunt'?' etc
 
It's definitely my favourite DS9 episode so far. And it tops any TNG episodes too. So, I'm glad it happened. Even if Sisko bungled some of what could have been good scenes. (EG spoiling the moment when he forgot that badges aren't communicators with shit "acting").
 
I got a bit sick of TNG half way through series 5. I needed a break after the episode where Picard gets stuck in the lift with the children. So I've started DS9 earlier than planned. Even the much maligned first series is very good so far. Loving Odo even if he is a petty fascist.
 
I got a bit sick of TNG half way through series 5. I needed a break after the episode where Picard gets stuck in the lift with the children. So I've started DS9 earlier than planned. Even the much maligned first series is very good so far. Loving Odo even if he is a petty fascist.
I think when it aired DS9 overlapped TNG, so you're probably doing the right thing.
 
Oh. My. God. The horror.

Alone at lunchtime and hyped on the joy of the best DS9 episode I've seen so far (nay, the best post-TOS episode yet), I thought I'd watch a cheeky episode over my Spanish omelette (delicious, thanks). So I fired up Netflix and sat down to enjoy Let He Who Is Without Sin.

I should never have mentioned Spock's Brain. It jinxed me.

This is the worst Trek ever. And possibly the worst TV ever. And I saw a few minutes of Love Island. Actually it was very like Love Island, but the dialogue was worse. Fucking hell, I thought Spock's Brain was bad. This was worse. Much worse.

Don't watch it. Skip to the next episode. Which even though I haven't seen it can't possibly be worse.


How was this allowed? My faith in humanity has been dashed. And I was so happy after the Tribbles episode.

:shakes fist at sky:
 
Oh. My. God. The horror.

Alone at lunchtime and hyped on the joy of the best DS9 episode I've seen so far (nay, the best post-TOS episode yet), I thought I'd watch a cheeky episode over my Spanish omelette (delicious, thanks). So I fired up Netflix and sat down to enjoy Let He Who Is Without Sin.

I should never have mentioned Spock's Brain. It jinxed me.

This is the worst Trek ever. And possibly the worst TV ever. And I saw a few minutes of Love Island. Actually it was very like Love Island, but the dialogue was worse. Fucking hell, I thought Spock's Brain was bad. This was worse. Much worse.

Don't watch it. Skip to the next episode. Which even though I haven't seen it can't possibly be worse.


How was this allowed? My faith in humanity has been dashed. And I was so happy after the Tribbles episode.

:shakes fist at sky:
Their faces wet.
 
Horror Channel is up to season 5 of TNG now.

darmok and jalad at tanagra.
That episode winds me up. How the fuck does the universal translator know they are saying place and people names? It surely translates meanings rather than the roots. How do you acquire a language based on cultural references to the point that it's untranslatable but lose the ability to use the building blocks of those references? It's just nonsense.
 
Oh. My. God. The horror.

Alone at lunchtime and hyped on the joy of the best DS9 episode I've seen so far (nay, the best post-TOS episode yet), I thought I'd watch a cheeky episode over my Spanish omelette (delicious, thanks). So I fired up Netflix and sat down to enjoy Let He Who Is Without Sin.

I should never have mentioned Spock's Brain. It jinxed me.

This is the worst Trek ever. And possibly the worst TV ever. And I saw a few minutes of Love Island. Actually it was very like Love Island, but the dialogue was worse. Fucking hell, I thought Spock's Brain was bad. This was worse. Much worse.

Don't watch it. Skip to the next episode. Which even though I haven't seen it can't possibly be worse.


How was this allowed? My faith in humanity has been dashed. And I was so happy after the Tribbles episode.

:shakes fist at sky:

Zero stars [DS9] Jammer's Review: "Let He Who Is Without Sin..."
 
That episode winds me up. How the fuck does the universal translator know they are saying place and people names? It surely translates meanings rather than the roots. How do you acquire a language based on cultural references to the point that it's untranslatable but lose the ability to use the building blocks of those references? It's just nonsense.
It's great. I love the fact that the language is a code based on stories. So how did they tell the stories?

The Time Investigation Unit should probably look into it.
 
I think it'd be great if, in the nursing home, all I could remember is Klingon. The staff would be at a loss to know what language I was speaking. Then one day a volunteer would recognise it as Klingon and feed me gach.
 
I'm on season 6 now. Most recently watched the one where mirror universe Vedek Barial comes to steal an Orb. I don't like the mirror universe stories.

So. On another matter. Something troubling me. Universal translator. It's working all the time translating (and lip synching) everything you say.

So how do Klingons know you've said "Qapla!" to them in their own language rather than just "good luck"?
 
I'm on season 6 now. Most recently watched the one where mirror universe Vedek Barial comes to steal an Orb. I don't like the mirror universe stories.

So. On another matter. Something troubling me. Universal translator. It's working all the time translating (and lip synching) everything you say.

So how do Klingons know you've said "Qapla!" to them in their own language rather than just "good luck"?

The mirror universe episodes are weak overall. As for the translators it's just something you have to suspend disbelief for. But for the phrase 'Qapla' I always assumed it was a well known phrase (like 'au revoir') and they were just saying it.
 
Universal translators can manage any nuance of tense, of meaning, of the chains of meaning that make a word what it is relative to the words behind and in front of it. Yet apparently they only have a soft AI rather than a weakly godlike one. Swizz.
 
I struggle to suspend disbelief when they're in disguise on another planet like in Reunification and a local Romulan questions their accents.

I've done series one of DS9 (which was great) and gone back to TNG for the moment. The decision on whether I'm actually going to bother with Voyager or not is looming.
 
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