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SpookyFrank said:
Won't have much effect without at least some idea of the backstory and characters involved though.
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Maybe someone could produce a list of skippable episodes for those of us who still feel far too intimidated by the sheer mass of available episodes compared to available time to watch stuff.
 
I liked the Maquis episodes. Didn't like the Kira and Bashir parallel universe one. Didn't add anything to the TOS episode, Mirror, Mirror, that it references. All a bit pointless and crap.
 
There was a nice website I used to visit that reviewed and rated each episode and specified whether or not it was neccessary to watch for story-arch purposes, but unfortunately it appears to be abandonded and virus-ridden these days :(
 
O'Brien does a lot of running a level one diagnostics on the subroutine. Or rerouting it through the secondary buffers.
 
They've got their own starship now. That solves the static problem. (The runabouts always sound too much like the secondhand Golf a sitcom mum picks the kids up from school in).

It's cool that the Defiant has
a cloaking device
 
danny la rouge said:
O'Brien does a lot of running a level one diagnostics on the subroutine. Or rerouting it through the secondary buffers.
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cybershot said:
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"Bide our time, Miles. One day, we'll be giving orders to lieutenants who won't even question the command structure in a galaxy seemingly ruled by a recently promoted captain. Admiral Ross might even blow us. Anything but Keiko. 'Kin'ell."
 
cybershot said:
Do we need another thread if we want to talk about the movies?
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I'm happy for that discussion to take place here, but if you think it'll get lost in the thread, maybe start a new one.

TOS and TNG films can sensibly be discussed here. But maybe there's a need for the New Universe films to go elsewhere. (I'm not the best judge of what's canonical. I tend to have a low threshold).
 
danny la rouge said:
I'm happy for that discussion to take place here, but if you think it'll get lost in the thread, maybe start a new one.

TOS and TNG films can sensibly be discussed here. But maybe there's a need for the New Universe films to go elsewhere. (I'm not the best judge of what's canonical. I tend to have a low threshold).
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The reboot is canon. Just a parallel universe!

The countdown graphic novel is also considered official canon which explains the build up in the TNG era really well. Picard is admiral and data is captain of the enterprise e (obviously rebuilt from the parts found in nemesis)



But yes I do agree, reboot film discussion would probably be frowned upon by the masses!
 
Frowned upon by the hardcore, you mean, not the masses.

I watched Insurrection last night. I remembered it to be a terrible film, but it was actually even worse than that. None of it makes any sense. Stuff (particularly small scale stuff) just happens with no apparent prior cause and then it never gets mentioned again. The “good guys” are 600 elitist pricks whilst the “bad guys” are trying to save billions of lives. Picard spends a lot of time just looking around in a weird way. Ill-advised jokes abound that make you cringe. It ranks in the worst 5% of films I have ever seen.
 
kabbes said:
Frowned upon by the hardcore, you mean, not the masses.

I watched Insurrection last night. I remembered it to be a terrible film, but it was actually even worse than that. None of it makes any sense. Stuff (particularly small scale stuff) just happens with no apparent prior cause and then it never gets mentioned again. The “good guys” are 600 elitist pricks whilst the “bad guys” are trying to save billions of lives. Picard spends a lot of time just looking around in a weird way. Ill-advised jokes abound that make you cringe. It ranks in the worst 5% of films I have ever seen.
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I've not seen any of the TNG films (because until recently I didn't consider TNG to be Star Trek. So I was harder than hard core). I recently purchased a box set of them all, second hand. I'm now wondering how wise that was. :D
 
danny la rouge said:
I've not seen any of the TNG films (because until recently I didn't consider TNG to be Star Trek. So I was harder than hard core). I recently purchased a box set of them all, second hand. I'm now wondering how wise that was. :D
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Unless they paid you to take Insurrection away, it was unwise.

(Actually, First Contact is Seely mediocre and worth watching if you like completing your Star Trek viewing. Nemesis I remember being bad too, but I plan to rewatch it in the near future to test my memory).

Amazing how shocking the FX all look too, by the way. Like a computer game of 15 years ago. There’s no proper shadowing — everything looks way too bright and uncluttered.
 
I'm now just over half way through DS9 series 3. So, given that it's 7 seasons long, I'm just over half way through DS9. And so far it's very patchy. It has some of the worst episodes of Star Trek I've ever seen (Fascination, for example). And the very worst acting. (Sisko). I'm not getting the "it's the best series" vibe at all. And as for the reputation it has for doing "politics" well; the time travel to the Earth ghetto was overtly political, but while a fun romp, was hardly quality political insight. It was cringey at best.
 
danny la rouge said:
I'm now just over half way through DS9 series 3. So, given that it's 7 seasons long, I'm just over half way through DS9. And so far it's very patchy. It has some of the worst episodes of Star Trek I've ever seen (Fascination, for example). And the very worst acting. (Sisko). I'm not getting the "it's the best series" vibe at all. And as for the reputation it has for doing "politics" well; the time travel to the Earth ghetto was overtly political, but while a fun romp, was hardly quality political insight. It was cringey at best.
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Halfway through series four would be halfway through DS9 :)

I quite like a lot of the early episodes, but the storylines that give it the 'best series' reputation really do start around series 4 onwards (albeit with seeds sown earlier).
 
I think it's interesting how the real Kirk of TOS has been overwritten in collective memory with the womanising parody version.
 
danny la rouge said:
Bashir's acting is improving but Sisko's is getting even worse.
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I like Avery Brooks' acting. It's ridiculous but in an oddly compelling way. He has a way of delivering lines with maximum drama while still giving the impression he's trying with all his might to tone it down.
 
Generations is the first Trek film I saw on the big screen, and its probably still the best. Guynan gets to be in it as well.
 
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