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It's regularly said that replicator food isn't as tasty as normal food. Also in the episode 'data's day' Dr Crusher says that replicated material contains numerous 'single bit errors'* so wouldn't have thought you'd want to replicate something as vital as dilithium crystals.

And yet the related transporter technology is used routinely in TNG times.
 
Watched a DS9 episode last night where Dr Bashir was trying to cure a terrible virus. He was going on about the 'mutation rate is increasing' which he was somehow able to determine via a visual assesment of one patient. No samples, no plates, no quantitative analysis of any empirical data at all in fact. He also did some of the worst TV CPR I've ever seen.

I like Bashir as a character, but he needs striking off from the Space Medical Council ASAP. And why he is going on away teams and flying spaceships and shit, instead of staying put in his sick bay and actually treating people? Dickhead.
 
I never noticed any of that about Bashir. The worst thing about him is his disgusting letchy behaviour towards Dax, epecially early on.

He was a creep, but a believable creep. DS9 took some of the saccharine shine off the Trek universe and was all the better for it IMO.

In fact I think his story was he'd been sent out to the arse end of Federation space because he was a bit of a dick and nobody else wanted him.
 
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Bashir gets cool points for doing section 21 dirty work. Lying to your bredrins for the greater good eh bashir? excellent.

according to a scene filmed (but not broadcast) of Discovery, Evil Gouigous (fucked if I can spell that) is recruited by them and will be involved in next season of disco disco
 
It's regularly said that replicator food isn't as tasty as normal food. Also in the episode 'data's day' Dr Crusher says that replicated material contains numerous 'single bit errors'...
Sounds like a recipe for cancer.
 
In fact I think his story was he'd been sent out to the arse end of Federation space because he was a bit of a dick and nobody else wanted him.
Embarrassingly illegal genetic enhancement by pushy parents, or was that someone else?
 
no thats him. I felt at the time this was an annoying power level upping for no good reason except we need bashir to be nails later.

A rare example of an actual explanation for a sci-fi character who can mysteriously do just about anything. Dax had her multiple lifetimes of experience, Bashir had his ilegally enhanced brain. Also kind of explains some of his dickish arrogance.
 
15 mins into DS9 S2:E7 "The Rules of Acquision". It's absolutely terrible. It's a Ferengi-heavy load of tripe. Even the Gamma Quadrant aliens are garbage in look and realisation. Jim Henson would have scrapped it. I can't face watching the whole thing, so I'm skipping it. This is even worse than Spock's Brain.

I haven't skipped any Trek so far. (And I watched the whole of TOS S3).
 
15 mins into DS9 S2:E7 "The Rules of Acquision". It's absolutely terrible. It's a Ferengi-heavy load of tripe. Even the Gamma Quadrant aliens are garbage in look and realisation. Jim Henson would have scrapped it. I can't face watching the whole thing, so I'm skipping it. This is even worse than Spock's Brain.

I haven't skipped any Trek so far. (And I watched the whole of TOS S3).
The Ferengi stuff suffers from similar problems to the Klingon episodes in TNG. A massive Federation rivalling civilisation turns out to be run by two or three characters that are happy to be influenced by our human heroes. It just ends up making both cultures look like cardboard cut outs. At least (as I remember) the Cardassians seem to have a little depth.

And if you haven't skipped any Star Trek yet it's because you haven't seen Neelix yet.
 
15 mins into DS9 S2:E7 "The Rules of Acquision". It's absolutely terrible. It's a Ferengi-heavy load of tripe. Even the Gamma Quadrant aliens are garbage in look and realisation. Jim Henson would have scrapped it. I can't face watching the whole thing, so I'm skipping it. This is even worse than Spock's Brain.

I haven't skipped any Trek so far. (And I watched the whole of TOS S3).

Trufax: That's actually one of the two episodes that got me started on DS9 (I currently forget which was the other). My original TNG tapes came from someone who copied them off BBC2, but one of them was a mislabelled DS9 tape containing this.
 
Obviously down to personal preference, but there's a lot of star trek which can be skipped, for those that are starting, or just started a certain series and happy to skip past the episodes that have no future references or importance, heres a decent list to go by starting with TOS.

The Original Series Episode Guide
 
Isn't skipping a bit, well, cheating? (says me who has missed entire last seasons and most of Enterprise...)

There are plenty of episodes even of TNG and DS9 that are just not worth 45 minutes of anyone's time, not even in a 'look how shit this is' way. It's a bit like the opposite of the X-files in that the episodes that are part of a larger arc are usually great wile some the of the standalone stories are crap. The internet is a rich source of episode guides to help spare you the duds.

With Enterprise you want to stop watching before it starts and then pick it up again shortly after it's over.
 
Isn't skipping a bit, well, cheating? (says me who has missed entire last seasons and most of Enterprise...)

Depends on your outlook. Star Trek of yesteryear and indeed most TV back then, episodes, let alone series were also stand-alone. With little continuity. Pretty much all of TOS and early seasons of TNG were all about alien of the week, rather than character building.

Skipping past most of TNG season 1 and 2 I recommend for anyone that's new to Star Trek and enjoys modern day (13 episode seasons that tell one big story, much like Discovery, where you can't skip an episode) TV.

DS9 argulably was one of the first shows to have one big massive story arc over 7 seasons, but even so, still many of season 1,2 and part of 3 can be skipped, and ditto with Voyager.

It's just seems to be how Star Trek was, slow starts, that you just wouldn't get away with today.
 
Depends on your outlook. Star Trek of yesteryear and indeed most TV back then, episodes, let alone series were also stand-alone. With little continuity. Pretty much all of TOS and early seasons of TNG were all about alien of the week, rather than character building.

Skipping past most of TNG season 1 and 2 I recommend for anyone that's new to Star Trek and enjoys modern day (13 episode seasons that tell one big story, much like Discovery, where you can't skip an episode) TV.

DS9 argulably was one of the first shows to have one big massive story arc over 7 seasons, but even so, still many of season 1,2 and part of 3 can be skipped, and ditto with Voyager.

It's just seems to be how Star Trek was, slow starts, that you just wouldn't get away with today.

In relation to the latest incarnation, I do think it's worth watching from the original series:

Mudd's Women
I, Mudd
The Tholian Web
Mirror, Mirror
 
He was a creep, but a believable creep. DS9 took some of the saccharine shine off the Trek universe and was all the better for it IMO.

In fact I think his story was he'd been sent out to the arse end of Federation space because he was a bit of a dick and nobody else wanted him.

I did..do!! :oops:
 
Also, I think danny mentioned the DS9 theme as being a bit underwhelming. They make subtle changes to the opening titles around season 3 or 4 and it's an improvement. Nothing radical but more agreeable.
 
Also, I think danny mentioned the DS9 theme as being a bit underwhelming. They make subtle changes to the opening titles around season 3 or 4 and it's an improvement. Nothing radical but more agreeable.
I see what they were doing. This is a programme about a static space station on the edge of Federation territory, not a star ship travelling at the permit-able maximum warp. The music captures that mood. But that means it isn't setting a mood of anticipation for an exciting story. It's more like an unremarkable interlude you have to get through.
 
If you've never watched an episode of DS9, In The Pale Moonlight is absolutely boss.
 
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