Russell Brand: rape and sexual abuse allegations, grifting and general dodginess - discussion

[Dystopiary]

Don't you think it's up to the "alleged" victims to decide if they want to have their day in court, if they are given that option?

Yes I do and yes it has to be their choice.

 

[gosub]

Well, if he’s charged there’s also the technical possibility of being found innocent.

It's not like he killed speckled jim

 

[Cid]

Well, if he’s charged there’s also the technical possibility of being found innocent.

No there isn't, there is no such thing as being 'found innocent'.

 

[Ming]

Still asking for money ('go to Rumble where i can get paid') and no addressing the allegations.

 

[gosub]

Still asking for money ('go to Rumble where i can get paid') and no addressing the allegations.

Scissor pass

 

[8ball]

Wonder how long they’ll run on this before rollout of other names on the “open secret” list.

 

[Wilf]

Still asking for money ('go to Rumble where i can get paid') and no addressing the allegations.

Quite literally, unblinking. Utterly unhinged.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Yeah the whole nature of the conspiracy sphere in general and his contribution to it in particular is one of constant frantic bandwagon jumping isn't it. As I understand it he puts out his videos incredibly regularly - remove that and he'll be yesterday's news very quickly, not some precious hero.

To a large degree because some other shithead will fill the hole though.

Did Andrew Tate going to prison end his popularity?

 

[Kid_Eternity]

People hoping for a trial really need to think about what that might mean for "alleged" victims.

Eh? This is absurd, the trial only happens if they come forward. The ones that don’t won’t be known.

 

[BigMoaner]

Still asking for money ('go to Rumble where i can get paid') and no addressing the allegations.

How any can listen to that shit hour after hour is beyond me.

 

[farmerbarleymow]

How any can listen to that shit hour after hour is beyond me.

His voice irritates me - can't bear to listen to him.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

Did Andrew Tate going to prison end his popularity?

Well as it stands Tate isn't in prison is he. I've no way of measuring what effect being arrested has had but yeah I think if he does end up inside for an extended period it's inevitable his profile will drop off with time.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Just caught up with his latest video. He looks even more scared than the last one. Very good to see. If he’s shitting bricks it means he knows there’s a strong case against him. The sooner this abusive fuck is in jail the better.

 

[LDC]

Yes I do and yes it has to be their choice.

I think it's more complicated than that tbh, if someone has committed a serious crime and there's evidence to charge them it shouldn't be able to be dismissed solely based on the victim's decision. There's too much risk that they can be put under pressure etc. I mean there's practical reasons why it might not be possible to charge and convict them if the victims withdraw co-operation of course.

 

[kabbes]

The cuts in that video at times make it look like a piece of cassetteboy satire.

 

[sealion]

Quite literally, unblinking. Utterly unhinged.

Been dipping in and out of the whole thing so not that clued up but i'm sure i read that he hasn't been banned from youtube but has been stopped from earning money from his output/ ramblings. And yes he is completely unhinged, twisted, dangerous and very unhealthy for what i pressume will be a vulnerable audience/ fanbase.

 

[seeformiles]

That's frankly bollocks. Given how many people have been assaulted and/or raped and understandably not reported; or people that have reported and made matters worse by way of investigation and next to nothing conviction rate - do they really think that this will encourage people to onslaught sexual abuse claims in the hope that they'll be dealt with properly now, and that the police are set up to do that. Given the heroic clear up rate to date, that's laughable.

In the 70s, I remember seeing some of my Ma’s friends in the neighbourhood walking round with bruises and wearing dark glasses to hide black eyes. As a kid, I’d ask what happened and there would be some story about walking into a door but my Ma’s expression would tell a different story. I’m glad that, although my dad had a serious temper he used to smash up things and, to my knowledge, never hit my Ma. Shows what little faith they put in the police at the time.

 

[Pickman's model]

Quite literally, unblinking. Utterly unhinged.

I don't think that at all. Utterly unhinged to us. But other audiences may see him differently. They may see an innocent man in dire straits under great pressure. Don't forget he's had acting training and acted professionally for years, there's no doubt in my mind that he's presenting himself like this deliberately, playing a role, and er sceptics like us aren't his intended audience

 

[cesare]

I don't think that at all. Utterly unhinged to us. But other audiences may see him differently. They may see an innocent man in dire straits under great pressure. Don't forget he's had acting training and acted professionally for years, there's no doubt in my mind that he's presenting himself like this deliberately, playing a role, and er sceptics like us aren't his intended audience

I think the deepening of the voice and speaking more slowly are part of that performance

 

[mojo pixy]

**hand-waving intensifies

 

[Voley]

The cuts in that video at times make it look like a piece of cassetteboy satire.

Doesn't it? Makes him even more difficult to watch. I managed 45 seconds or so this time.

 

[Karl Masks]

Still asking for money ('go to Rumble where i can get paid') and no addressing the allegations.

Ivermectin is a 'revered medicine'?

It's just a fucking parasite remover for livestock. He makes it sound like Ayuerveda or Rhinoceros Big Erection Horn

I wonder how many inane chinese aphorisms he has tattooed on his sex pest body

 

[LDC]

Source 'The Grayzone', fucking lol at the deluded loon cunt.

 

[BigMoaner]

the persecutory complex is grotesque. one program, 4 people reporting. but the whole world is against poor russell.

 

[LDC]

I guess he doesn't have much choice in some ways; it's either admit you did something terrible, deny it and say the women are lying, or come up with some conspiracy that it's really just to shut you and your 'challenging the mainstream narratives' voice up.

 

[Pickman's model]

the persecutory complex is grotesque. one program, 4 people reporting. but the whole world is against poor russell.

It is now

 

[BigMoaner]

I guess he doesn't have much choice in some ways; it's either admit you did something terrible, deny it and say the women are lying, or come up with some conspiracy that it's really just to shut you and your 'challenging the mainstream narratives' voice up.

Yep. Or

"I am going offline for a while while I deal with these reports. I will work with anyone to prove my innocence. Thank you and good bye for now".

Instead:

 

[LDC]

Yep. Or

"I am going offline for a while while I deal with these reports. I will work with anyone to prove my innocence. Thank you and good bye for now".

Instead:

Yeah, what's bonkers is I think he could do OK out of this if he said something like that; admitted terrible behaviour in the past and he would do all he could to co-operate with the investigations. I mean self improvement is a big part of his whole thing isn't it? I still think he'll probably get some self help/his side of the story book published out of all of this even if he gets convicted, probably even write it in prison.

 

[DaveCinzano]

I still think he'll probably get some self help/his side of the story book published out of all of this even if he gets convicted, probably even write it in prison.

Man with grandiose ideas and inordinate amount of self-belief writing a book whilst in prison, you say?

 

[Santino]

Man with grandiose ideas and inordinate amount of self-belief writing a book whilst in prison, you say?

Once again, way ahead of you:

Or perhaps 'My Struggley-Wuggle'.