Russell Brand: rape and sexual abuse allegations, grifting and general dodginess - discussion

[BigMoaner]

i can see the future - all major talking points are talked about admist a swirl of utter fucking conspiracy ladden horseshit. no turning back.

 

[phildwyer]

All good cheers.



Yep. Most of the old bellends are still here. One or two new ones.

Is Rorymac still around? He was class, I enjoyed a few real life pints with him too.

 

[phildwyer]

I've never seen it but this doesn't make it sound like the thing I'd want to actively support

The Grayzone - Bias and Credibility

QUESTIONABLE SOURCE A questionable source exhibits one or more of the following: extreme bias, consistent promotion of propaganda/conspiracies, poor or no

mediabiasfactcheck.com

Is "The Grayzone" a legitimate investigative journalism site?

Answer (1 of 13): Investigative journalism is way too strong a term for what The Grayzone does. The site seems to be largely a political advocacy group with a mishmash of views that look quite strange to someone used to mainstream western journalism. To be polite, it seems to be pushing news as ...

www.quora.com

I suggest taking a look for yourself, it's easy to throw smears around. I think the video I posted above is very good commentary.

 

[phildwyer]

can you see the Qanon telegram chats at the bottom of the well yet?

Max Blumenthal's alright. More than alright actually. He's Sidney's son I gather.

 

[krtek a houby]

I suggest taking a look for yourself, it's easy to throw smears around. I think the video I posted above is very good commentary.

Yes, well, you would, wouldn't you?

 

[phildwyer]

Stuck him on ignore already, fuck reading endless pages of George Galloway like drivel every day.

You should make a particular point of reading material with which you disagree. That's how you learn.

 

[Dystopiary]

The Gray Zone is

led by son of a wealthy Clinton advisor, Max Blumenthal and his zany “never met a Human Rights violation we didn’t like” cohorts at Grayzone . They receive helping hands from a number of shady media organizations and fringe voices that include Russian disinformation network RT, TeleSur in South America, reknown racists Richard Spencer, Tucker Carlson, a nazi school shooter and even ex-KKK wizard David Duke.

These fearless champions of state-violence cheer police forces brutalizing protesters, deny well-documented death squads and rationalize oppression at every turn.

Despite Blumenthal’s attacks on journalists who work for publications funded by Soros, he has had no problem accepting money from that source in the past, such as when he worked for the Nation, whose parent company, TYPE Media Center is funded in part by grants from the man he so often demonizes, nor from his time at “Media Matters” which has also enjoyed Soros funding. Oh, and also AlterNet, who helped him develop Grayzone until 2018, when they fired him, presumably because his conspiracy theory mongering was damaging their reputation.

Nor has he been above accepting gifts from the regimes he writes so flatteringly about. Blumenthal and other writers at Grayzone have also been exposed accepting “journalism prizes” from pro-Assad lobby groups.

from here

 

[Dystopiary]

And we're off!

Welcome back, Phil.

Do you really think joking about conspiracy theorist shite is appropriate in a thread about multiple women and girls being raped and sexually abused? People like Blumenthal perpetuate this culture of covering up gross misogyny.

 

[phildwyer]

The Gray Zone is





from here

As I say, it's easy to throw smears around, and I've no interest in factionalism. I evaluate forums based on their content, and I find Blumenthal in particular to be an excellent reporter.

 

[Dystopiary]

As I say, it's easy to throw smears around, and I've no interest in factionalism. I evaluate forums based on their content, and I find Blumenthal in particular to be an excellent reporter.

Fuck off.

 

[phildwyer]

Do you really think joking about conspiracy theorist shite is appropriate in a thread about multiple women and girls being raped and sexually abused? People like Blumenthal perpetuate this culture of covering up gross misogyny.

It would help if you'd post an example. These unsubstantiated smears are tedious.

 

[Dystopiary]

It would help if you'd post an example. These unsubstantiated smears are tedious.

I just did. But fuck off.

 

[editor]

I suggest taking a look for yourself, it's easy to throw smears around. I think the video I posted above is very good commentary.

So you're just going to ignore all the comments and links you don't like, yes?

 

[phildwyer]

Fuck off.

And so your are immediately reduced to monosyllabic obscenity. That tells me all I need to know about your argument. The Greyzone goes up in my estimation.

 

[phildwyer]

So you're just going to ignore all the comments you don't like, yes?

Am I ignoring them? Obviously not. I disagree with them.

 

[Flavour]

I don't remember you being this bad, phil. But not really a surprise to see you've fallen into the rabbit hole. Never forgot that thread where you proved the existence of God though, that was a banger.

 

[Elpenor]

Best to say bye now I think

 

[krtek a houby]

You should make a particular point of reading material with which you disagree. That's how you learn.

You have several years of learning to catch up with, so.

This isn't your playground anymore.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

Aw, dwyer used to be the WUM that teuchter can only dream of being. Be a shame if he's hit his 'returning Ernesto' phase.

 

[phildwyer]

I don't remember you being this bad, phil. But not really a surprise to see you've fallen into the rabbit hole. Never forgot that thread where you proved the existence of God though, that was a banger.

I always got you confused with Flimsier.

 

[phildwyer]

Aw, dwyer used to be the WUM that teuchter can only dream of being. Be a shame if he's hit his 'returning Ernesto' phase.

Don't tell me Ernesto's gone?

 

[editor]

You should make a particular point of reading material with which you disagree. That's how you learn.

So you're OK with some buck-chasing social media commentator spouting provably false horseshit and conspiracy grifting crap because you like their hot take on other topics?

The Grayzone publishes questionable material, stating that a Chemical Attack did not occur in Douma, Syria OPCW investigator testifies at UN that no chemical attack took place in Douma, Syria. They have also promoted conspiracy theories, such as claiming that Pete Buttigieg is a CIA agent. There is no evidence to support this claim. Finally, according to Radio Free Asia, The Grayzone content is frequently shared by the Chinese Communist Party media outlets “CCP propaganda is also increasingly laundered through Western influencers and denialist fringe media outlets like The Grayzone,” the report said, adding that, between December 2019 and February 2021, The Grayzone was cited at least 313 times in Chinese state media.”

Finally, The Grayzone promotes conspiracy theories involving George Soros funding regime changes, and the editor Max Blumenthal claims that Bill Gates ran a Covid simulation before it occurred. This is false. In general, The Grayzone promotes a socialist left perspective that promotes conspiracy theories and pro-Russian/Chinese propaganda.

 

[pesh]

Cunt returns after 6 years to troll sexual abuse thread.
stay classy Dwyer.

 

[phildwyer]

So you're OK with some buck-chasing social media commentator spouting provably false horseshit and conspiracy grifting crap because you like their hot take on other topics?

I haven't seen the videos to which you refer. Have you?

Check this one out. It's good stuff:

 

[Flavour]

I always got you confused with Flimsier.

worse people to be confused with in the history of urban, tbf.

so tell us, at what point in the last 6 years did you become a rape apologist?

 

[Wilf]

So you're just going to ignore all the comments and links you don't like, yes?

Could we go straight to the threadban? Would it be justified - no - but funny as fuck.

Edit, having read the rest of this page it pretty much would be (justified that is).

 

[BigMoaner]

is Phil an Urban EdgeLord?

 

[BigMoaner]

hhhaaaactually

 

[Elpenor]

Well now the thread is firmly about Phil, not bad for an hours work

 

[Rob Ray]

I disagree with them.

And with four words so much of the problem of conspiraloonery is summarised. Information quality? Political agenda? Funding? Prior behaviour? None of it matters, there's no evidence "I agree with" that my sources aren't great.