andysays
Love and solidarity
You're coming across as almost as sleazy as Brand now
Russell Brand: rape and sexual abuse allegations, grifting and general dodginess - discussion
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paul mckenna
Bellend
You smell, silly pants
BigMoaner
We will all go together
Oh another Logic Bro.
These are reports. We are not judges or juries. I think what most of us are saying is that they deserve to be investigated and perhaps be bought in front of judges and juries
Don’t you?
paul mckenna
Bellend
A Logic Bro? How on earth is this a pejorative
It means you think you’re being clever. However, in reality, you’re failing to take into account everything that can’t be straightforwardly measured. So you concentrate on what is legal and completely ignore what is seen as culturally acceptable or moral. You talk about court cases and forget that people are entitled to form an opinion regardless of whether or not something goes to court. You quantify everything but value nothing.
paul mckenna
Bellend
If you're saying that applying a cold rationale of logic on a per-accusation basis is the work of a smarty pants then you're a fucking idiot
andysays
Love and solidarity
Your responses are even worse than his though.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Wow.
BigMoaner
We will all go together
Especially if it’s based on folks’ actual reports. Like, as a commited Logic Lord, surely you’d want deep and thorough investigations of such reports.
Not in all cases I guess.
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hiraethified
Right. So if she was - as you allege with absolutely zero evidence - a call girl, why would she then go to the police to report inappropriate sexual contact?
girasol
Addicted to handstands!
I'm not defending him, but he did stop the inappropriate sexual behaviour, which suggests he knew it wasn't ok. He always called it sex addiction. I don't recall him mentioning bipolar in his book though, or anywhere else. But maybe he wanted to keep it private back when I was paying attention.
Edit: Interestingly when I googled just now it would appear he was diagnosed at a young age...
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LDC
On est tous des pangolins
FFS you horrible prick, fuck right off.
paul mckenna
Bellend
Do you believe that a standard masseur was hired for £500?
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
paul mckenna you liked my post. My incredulity is that a person who presumably reads posts on Urban75 still thinks it is not possible to sexually assault a sex worker. That is an appalling attitude to hold in 2023.
Furthermore, your inference that this person is indeed a sex worker is all your own.
In short: stfu.
Furthermore, your inference that this person is indeed a sex worker is all your own.
In short: stfu.
Aladdin
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paul mckenna
Did you need to know the law when you were younger in order to understand that rape is wrong?
Did you need to know the law when you were younger in order to understand that rape is wrong?
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hiraethified
I see no reason why not. Rich celebrities will pay sky high prices for all sorts of things. But you haven't answered my question. Why would she go to the police?
hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
From another thread, Pearl Davis (1.8 million subscribers on youtube) and Anna "lol lmao I stand with Brand obviously" Khachiyan (£48,660 per month on Patreon).
I’m saying that you think you’re applying logic but you’re not, because you haven’t understood the predicates contained within your logic system. I mean, you have actually studied formal logic, right Paul?
andysays
Love and solidarity
From what I've seen, he's still maintaining his behaviour was consensual, ie denying it was inappropriate.
andysays
Love and solidarity
Yeah, even if hypothetically they were a sex worker, explicitly hired to wank him off, that doesn't mean they've agreed for him to touch them sexually, which is what it's alleged has happened.
If he does that without consent, it's clearly still sexual assault, whatever their profession.
girasol
Addicted to handstands!
I said many posts ago he should own up to it and stop gaslighting these women but I don't think there's ever been a famous sex offender who's openly admitted to it because it'd mean going to jail?
What every victim wants is aknowledgment they are telling the truth and an apology. It is hardly ever given. The best they can hope for instead is that there is enough evidence and a conviction. An apology is an admission of guilt and proof that could lead to a conviction, so it rarely happens.
But, didn't he send an apologetic message to one of his victims? The one in LA, iirc.
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eatmorecheese
He's fallen out of the car again
This actually made me shiver a bit. WTAF.
paul mckenna
Bellend
You avoiding the circumstantial evidence here that the masseur is being paid a good 3x normal rates, but coincidentally the going rate for outcall sex, matters a whole deal here
Because if this person was indeed a sex worker, then touching them isn't inappropriate, it's basically the only appropriate thing to do!!
You'd have a to draw your own conclusions why she'd make the police complaint - it could be for gain or it could be for serious assault. But the article says "inappropriate touching"
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hiraethified
I once got paid £300 to talk for an hour, so i don't think £500 is that much to pay for a travelling, trained masseuse at all.
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