Rogue One - A Star Wars spoiler thread

[Beats & Pieces]

d/l'd an atrocious cam job and watched 1 minute of it before deciding I was better than this. Have to be a new year or mid-season ciema visit.

You HAVE to see it on the big screen - it really is worth the effort (if only for the last 3 minutes).

 

[BoxRoom]

Would that it were so simple.

It's complicated.

 

[Pingu]

Good film, but they could have got someone genuinely funny to write the robots wisecracks. A couple hit home, bit so many fell flat. A bit too clichéd to have a robot frequently calculating the probability of death/survival in moments of tension. Shame, as the general idea of a cynical robot, and the voice acting, was a good one.

Apart from that, it was ace.

all night by the zev...

 

[weltweit]

Sprog saw this at the weekend with a mate, he said he and the mate would be embarrassed if I came with them, what with me being old and his dad and that !! wtf .....

So I didn't get to see it, I bet it was crap anyhow

 

[The Octagon]

First impressions (saw it this evening), pretty disappointed to be honest.

Maybe that will change with some reflection, but it felt rushed and the characters were barely fleshed out, so the final 3rd of the film felt devoid of any feeling.

I feel like Vader personally taking out the Rogue One crew and then pursuing the plans would have made for a more engaging finale, if you're going to cash in on his presence at least use him effectively.

Unnecessary CGI too (Tarkin looked ridiculous, Leia only slightly better).

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Fuck me that was good!


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[Kid_Eternity]

Balbi apparently saw that ending a mile away, I didn't expect it to be quite so bleak genuinely surprised at some of the character deaths! Brilliant though, and I want to see the original director's cut that I imagine would be Peckinpah in space.

I love Riz Ahmed's death, the way he looked up and has a look of realization of "Ok this is how it ends..." acceptance.[emoji22]


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[Kid_Eternity]

Just watched it for a second time, at a much smaller, non-IMAX cinema.

Quite different, easier to follow the action but not as spectacular.

Cushingbot looked better on the smaller screen, Carriebot looked worse .

At least two trailer shots are not in the finished film, which also happened with TFA, I think.

There's something wrong with new Vader's posture. Either he has no neck or the helmet is too big, just doesn't look right.

But so much to love - the X-wing fights, the back/forward references to ANH, the unrelenting pace, Krennic, the street at the trading post, the alien races, Two-Tubes, the white walking rug, the locations, the music, the deathtroopers and just the whole lot thrown together so beautifully.

ETA: Been reading that there are 12 shots in the trailers which didn't make the film. That seems a lot.

In the first scene with Vader I thought the way he walked wasn't quite right and the angle they chose made his neck look massive...but tbh I didn't think that scene was needed...


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[Beats & Pieces]

This is very cheeky!

 

[Lord Camomile]

First impressions (saw it this evening), pretty disappointed to be honest.

Maybe that will change with some reflection, but it felt rushed and the characters were barely fleshed out, so the final 3rd of the film felt devoid of any feeling.

Yup, pretty much my own feelings; simply barely cared about any of the characters which meant I barely cared about their deaths.

 

[Virtual Blue]

That was one fucking grim Star Wars and thought it was excellent.

I loved the mix of Asians in the cast (don't think I can remember a Star Wars cast this diverse).

 

[TheHoodedClaw]

(don't think I can remember a Star Wars cast this diverse).

The cantina in Mos Eisley was pretty diverse, tbf.

For the human cast, yes, although a bit thin on the women side of things.

 

[Cloo]

The cantina in Mos Eisley was pretty diverse, tbf.

For the human cast, yes, although a bit thin on the women side of things.

Interesting, the latter was my thought too. A few rebel fighter pilots, but would have liked to have seen a few women in the 'suicide squad' that went with Jyn and co.

I assumed quite a lot of characters might buy it, but I like the way the plot underlines that in war there can be tremendous sacrifice for one important secret. As gsv said, it really is a war film, this one.

Overall a great film, takes skill to be gripping when you know that the mission ultimately succeeds, you're just waiting to see the cost.

 

[Pingu]

That was one fucking grim Star Wars and thought it was excellent.

I loved the mix of Asians in the cast (don't think I can remember a Star Wars cast this diverse).

jebus... there have been wookies, ewoks, whatever the fuck jaja twatface was, humans, Abyssin, Hutt, Tusken, Defel, Gotal, Jawa, Rodian... and many many more how much more diversity do you want?

 

[Vintage Paw]

I loved it. My biggest problem was Vader.

2 things:

1) his helmet was all wrong. It looked like he got it out of a kid's "Dress up like Darth Vader" set. It was a weird kind of plastic. I tried to ignore it though, and focus on James Earl Jones.

2) when he was introduced, he talked far too much. That amount of dialogue would have been fine later on, but for his introductory scene I think something less direct, and more enigmatic and menacing would have been better. They made up for it at the end though. For a film devoid of the force, to see him batting off blaster shots and using it on rebel fighters, you really understood what a threat he is. Fantastic for setting up the next (previous/original/delete as appropriate) film.

 

[Virtual Blue]

jebus... there have been wookies, ewoks, whatever the fuck jaja twatface was, humans, Abyssin, Hutt, Tusken, Defel, Gotal, Jawa, Rodian... and many many more how much more diversity do you want?

I'm talking about the actors who played them.

You do realise they're actors right?

 

[Voley]

I went to see it last night and slept through the whole thing. I woke up just in time to spoil the ending.

I'm really good at kipping through loud, in-yer-face films. Mad Max was the last one.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

jebus... there have been wookies, ewoks, whatever the fuck jaja twatface was, humans, Abyssin, Hutt, Tusken, Defel, Gotal, Jawa, Rodian... and many many more how much more diversity do you want?

Um he mentioned Asians. I thought it was great to see such a diverse human cast.


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[blossie33]

Been to see it this afternoon so I can look at this thread now.

I really enjoyed it, as a big fan of the original triology I thought it was a very good link up storyline.......and Donny Yen being in it, love him

 

[scifisam]

Going to see it again tomorrow, I liked it that much. Not knowing anything at all about the film. Helped massively - the way it was going to end slowly became clear rather than being boringly obvious from the start. I actually thought the CGI on Tarkin was brilliant but the Leia CGI not so much - funny how people seem to have liked either one or the other. K2SO was the death that got me most. Usually I dislike the trope of the blind man with magically strong other senses, but him being Force sensitive actually made that feasible.

Given the standard of acting in the film I'm not sure why anyone would care if a character seems slightly 'unreal'. The main characters like Jyn (?) barely moved their faces at all, despite going through multiple traumas and stresses - to me that's a lot more unreal than a face of ever so slightly the wrong texture. I know I'm being a grump on this thread, but it's just a silly kids film (even if it is one of the 'darker' ones) that cost a lot of money. It seems increasingly weird to me to take it seriously in any way. Grump grump grump.

It's not a kids' film. You seem to be taking it seriously yourself tbf.

 

[Vintage Paw]

Usually I dislike the trope of the blind man with magically strong other senses, but him being Force sensitive actually made that feasible.

I read it a different way. I thought he was desperate to be force sensitive, but wasn't, and it all was in fact down to his heightened senses. Putting aside the 'blind man with magically strong other senses' problem for a moment, I thought it made it all the more poignant, because he wanted it so much, but when it came down to it he had it in him ("it" being the ability to do what needed to be done) without the need for the force.

 

[scifisam]

I read it a different way. I thought he was desperate to be force sensitive, but wasn't, and it all was in fact down to his heightened senses. Putting aside the 'blind man with magically strong other senses' problem for a moment, I thought it made it all the more poignant, because he wanted it so much, but when it came down to it he had it in him ("it" being the ability to do what needed to be done) without the need for the force.

He could sense "darkness" when somebody was about to kill, or at least said he could (said it about Cassian), and presumably that would also guide him about where people were about to shoot him etc. Tbh I'll stick to my reading because I loathe the magic blind person senses-enhanced-beyond-physical-possibility) thing so much that it would ruin the movie for me if that's all it was.

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

That was pretty wow.

It's definitely worth watching. The niggles I have with it are just overwhelmed by the positives.

 

[Cloo]

Gsv and I saw Yen's character as someone who would have been a Jedi had there been anyone to train him.

 

[dylanredefined]

That I know where they got the seats from the first spaceship from a scrapped helicopter put me off a bit. Other than that it was really cool.

 

[Pingu]

I'm talking about the actors who played them.

You do realise they're actors right?

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

 

[PursuedByBears]

It was good except for CGI Cushing and Fisher, I'd rather they hadn't bothered with those, I found them really jarring.

 

[mwgdrwg]

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Gsv and I saw Yen's character as someone who would have been a Jedi had there been anyone to train him.

Exactly. Him being blind isn't the point.


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[blossie33]

It was good except for CGI Cushing and Fisher, I'd rather they hadn't bothered with those, I found them really jarring.

I must confess I hadn't twigged on to Peter Cushing

The Leia one was a good idea but maybe better if done in a more subtle way - her image less clear.