Rochdale grooming trial: Nine men jailed

[The39thStep]

add a current court case ,which involves and allegation that a Muslim couple were planning a bombing campaign against Manchester's Jewish community to this Rochdale grooming case and with at least one more GM grooming trial in the pipe line ..........

 

[scoobydoo]

There are child abuse rings all over the country all involving girls and boys of different race. The problem with the Roachdale gang is that too many fascists want to capitalise on it. This gang did not just go for white girls it went for any girl . Another angle is yes there was a few innocent girls who were groomed and manipulated but there was also girls manipulating these men for money and gifts time to look at the bigger picture.

 

[scoobydoo]

When did the EDL bnp etc hold demo's outside the Catholic church ?

 

[butchersapron]

There are child abuse rings all over the country all involving girls and boys of different race. The problem with the Roachdale gang is that too many fascists want to capitalise on it. This gang did not just go for white girls it went for any girl . Another angle is yes there was a few innocent girls who were groomed and manipulated but there was also girls manipulating these men for money and gifts time to look at the bigger picture.

Oh shut up.

 

[Belushi]

T yes there was a few innocent girls who were groomed and manipulated but there was also girls manipulating these men for money and gifts time to look at the bigger picture.

Fuck off.

 

[scoobydoo]

Why have I offended you two?

 

[free spirit]

This gang did not just go for white girls it went for any girl .

really?

I was under the impression they were all white, or at least that none of them were Asian.

 

[Riklet]

Why have I offended you two?

Because you're phrasing things like victim blaming scum.

Have you read the thread? Do you have anything but shit contributions to add to it? If not, shut up and fuck off.

 

[scoobydoo]

really?

I was under the impression they were all white, or at least that none of them were Asian.

Yes thats what the media wants people to think. This gang has proboly abused hundreds of girls and some were proboly Asian . The truth is these men were looking for vulnerable girls not white girls.

 

[scoobydoo]

Because you're phrasing things like victim blaming scum.

Have you read the thread? Do you have anything but shit contributions to add to it? If not, shut up and fuck off.

Im just looking at things from different angles.

 

[Riklet]

Except vulnerable white girls were primarily (and seemingly almost exclusively) targeted though.

Predators aren't going to want to bring extra attention and grief upon themselves. They went for those easiest to abuse. A recurring theme no?

Are there any reports of young Asian girls hanging around the take aways with this same kind of stuff going on to them? This trial relates to organised gangs and street grooming/sex offences. I certainly don't deny that maybe abuse was happening within more closed circles (their families or those close to them) as well, and perhaps that has yet to come to light. There's also the possibility this didn't go on so much. What questions does that raise?

There recurring pattern with the street grooming, your "looking at things from a different angle" would be better if it didn't stray into la la "what ifs" and probably-s in order to avoid critical analysis and engagement.

 

[Frances Lengel]

There are child abuse rings all over the country all involving girls and boys of different race. The problem with the Roachdale gang is that too many fascists want to capitalise on it. This gang did not just go for white girls it went for any girl . Another angle is yes there was a few innocent girls who were groomed and manipulated but there was also girls manipulating these men for money and gifts time to look at the bigger picture.

Some of these so called "victims" were nothing more than mercenary little slags weren't they?

 

[ViolentPanda]

Another angle is yes there was a few innocent girls who were groomed and manipulated but there was also girls manipulating these men for money and gifts time to look at the bigger picture.

Because 12 and 13 year-old kids really are that calculating and able to play on human nature, the predatory little bitches!

Ya fucking twonk.

 

[ViolentPanda]

really?

I was under the impression they were all white, or at least that none of them were Asian.

For some really odd reason, only a very small number of the local children in care in that part of the country are "Asian".

 

[Captain Hurrah]

Another angle is yes there was a few innocent girls who were groomed and manipulated but there was also girls manipulating these men for money and gifts time to look at the bigger picture.

Fuck off.

 

[free spirit]

For some really odd reason, only a very small number of the local children in care in that part of the country are "Asian".

what point are you trying to make there?

 

[ViolentPanda]

what point are you trying to make there?

That a part of the reason for the ethnic composition of their prey may reside in the demography of "children in care in South Yorkshire" - they didn't molest Asian children because there are hardly any in care up there.

 

[Frances Lengel]

Rochdale? South Yorks? I mean to say.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Rochdale? South Yorks? I mean to say.

I knew that'd wind you up!

We southerners are all the same though, it's all "Rochdale, Rotherham, they all sound the same, the people all sound the same - incomprehensible. No-one will notice".

 

[Joe Reilly]

Because 12 and 13 year-old kids really are that calculating and able to play on human nature, the predatory little bitches!

Yeah, it's the Muslim victims in all this we should really feel sorry for.

 

[free spirit]

That a part of the reason for the ethnic composition of their prey may reside in the demography of "children in care in South Yorkshire" - they didn't molest Asian children because there are hardly any in care up there.

well, it's a theory I suppose.

I don't buy it myself though, and think it far more likely that they were simply racist bigoted pedophile twats who'd got the idea into their heads that it was somehow ok for them to be doing this to these girls as they were heathen white trash who nobody gave a shit about.

 

[Das Uberdog]

for what my two cents is worth i think it was a bit of both

 

[ViolentPanda]

well, it's a theory I suppose.

I don't buy it myself though, and think it far more likely that they were simply racist bigoted pedophile twats who'd got the idea into their heads that it was somehow ok for them to be doing this to these girls as they were heathen white trash who nobody gave a shit about.

A mag, I think it was Community Care (the health and social welfare fortnightly) did a year on year of ethnic composition of carees for the area that showed the number of "Asian" carees as statistically insignificant, so while you're probably right, we simply don't know whether they didn't rape Asian carees because there wasn't an opportunity, or because they had some twisted sort of "principles", just as we don't know, due to community dynamics, whether they were molesting females within their own communities. It's not safe or sensible to just assume one scenario or the other.

 

[ViolentPanda]

for what my two cents is worth i think it was a bit of both

That's pretty much my own opinion. Knowing a bit about this sort of crime, I'm not convinced that you'd get a group of paedophiliac predators that'd be able to resist "their own kind" even given some twisted set of principles such as free spirit suggests.

 

[newbie]

From the Telegraph, as a point of information

Shabir Ahmed, 59, led a child sex exploitation ring of nine men who targeted vulnerable young girls in the Rochdale and Oldham areas of Greater Manchester.
He was jailed for 19 years last month following an 11-week trial at Liverpool Crown Court.
But Ahmed - known to his victims by the nickname "Daddy" - could not be named as he was awaiting trial on separate child rape charges.
Today he was convicted of 30 charges of rape by a jury at Manchester Crown Court and Judge Mushtaq Khokhar lifted reporting restrictions, which means he can be identified for the first time.
The court heard that he raped and sexually abused a young Asian girl over many years.

 

[ViolentPanda]

From the Telegraph, as a point of information

Cheers for posting that.

 

[scoobydoo]

Except vulnerable white girls were primarily (and seemingly almost exclusively) targeted though.

Predators aren't going to want to bring extra attention and grief upon themselves. They went for those easiest to abuse. A recurring theme no?

Are there any reports of young Asian girls hanging around the take aways with this same kind of stuff going on to them? This trial relates to organised gangs and street grooming/sex offences. I certainly don't deny that maybe abuse was happening within more closed circles (their families or those close to them) as well, and perhaps that has yet to come to light. There's also the possibility this didn't go on so much. What questions does that raise?

There recurring pattern with the street grooming, your "looking at things from a different angle" would be better if it didn't stray into la la "what ifs" and probably-s in order to avoid critical analysis and engagement.

No I dont believe that race of the girls had nothing to do with it. They were after vulnerable girls which could of been any race.

 

[butchersapron]

I thought these girls were manipulative schemers guilty of entrapment with only "a few innocent girls"?

 

[scoobydoo]

Some of these so called "victims" were nothing more than mercenary little slags weren't they?

What Im saying is that some of the girls were victims and abused but I believe some of the girls knew exactly what they were doing and made alot of things up in the papers which fascists agree upon. There was even one white girl who was found to be bringing girls back to be abused and she got paid for it. So we cant just blame the men .

 

[newbie]

come again? it's never happened but I reckon if a 14yo offered to procure another 14yo for me I might just say no.


can't blame the men. sheesh.