HOw on earth does that even correlate? What a vile little scenario you've concocted. Is that how your mind works? Get a grip!
Racism Alive and Well in USA
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HOw on earth does that even correlate? What a vile little scenario you've concocted. Is that how your mind works? Get a grip!
I haven't said people can't talk about racism at all. You have inferred that because you, with your sad little quest to smear me - again without evidence, are hell bent on arguing with youtself. I'm beginning to wonder if you even k now what that phrase means.
The whole point of posting the vide, you dozy cunt, is to expose that kind of behaviour - presumably (unless you're just trolling) to try and diminish it. Those comments seem to prove the futility of this exercise as anyone with any knowledge of youtube coments would have predicted. All that you are left with is a damaged woman with a family trying to get on with her life now regarded, thanks to the meia picking up on this story (not the effort of the poster), as the scum of the earth. Well done; we can all rest easy in our beds now that racism is dead.
SpineyNorman
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Don't be a fucking idiot. How does the posting of daft comments by fuckwits demonstrate the futility of posting the video? That makes no sense at all.
In fact, if the aim was to expose that kind of behaviour it clearly was a complete success - people have seen it and are talking about it.
Nobody has said it will end racism either you plank.
SpineyNorman
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I haven't 'concocted a vile little scenario' - I've made an analogy, and your refusal to discuss it speaks volumes.
The impression I'm getting from reading your posts is that black people should just accept racism and if they try to defend themselves they're the real aggressors. Hang your racist head in shame.
Corax
Luke 5:16
"She claims that the man recording the video almost hit her son"
She didn't mention that at the time of course. Just that him starting his engine startled them.
Seems legit.
Corax
Luke 5:16
"Do you feel bad about using the word though?"
"Um.... [looooong pause] kinda sort of"
I don't know what's worse - the racism, or her attempt to blame it on bipolar. I've had a helluva lot of direct experience with bipolar disorder, including a long-term partner. IME it doesn't make you call people niggers. If I was someone with bipolar I'd be fucking angry with her attempt to blame it on that.
"Um.... [looooong pause] kinda sort of"
I don't know what's worse - the racism, or her attempt to blame it on bipolar. I've had a helluva lot of direct experience with bipolar disorder, including a long-term partner. IME it doesn't make you call people niggers. If I was someone with bipolar I'd be fucking angry with her attempt to blame it on that.
SpineyNorman
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k now what the phrase means? I don't k now what k now means anyway.
And yes you have - here's the logic demonstrated in your posts:
He should not have posted that video because he should have known it would provoke a negative reaction against the racist - some of which would not be pretty. Of course talking about racism - and especially specific acts of racism - can also provoke such a reaction. It therefore follows that the plebs should not discuss or try to deal with racism because it might - shock, horror - make people be nasty to the racist. Better than we leave it to our betters like the police, politicians and wanky liberals like you.
By the way, you're smearing yourself in shit and throwing big lumps of it around the room while wailing about how nasty people are being to the racist and how the victim should have just sucked it up or called the cops. If I had any wish to have you smeared (I don't - you're just not that significant so don't flatter yourself) I wouldn't need to do any smearing cos you're already doing an admirable job of it yourself.
Even so, she may well have bipolar. She may well be a racist person that also has bipolar disorder.
SpineyNorman
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So what? Bipolar isn't an excuse for being a racist and to claim it is, is a massive insult to everyone who has bipolar yet somehow manages not to go around racially abusing people. Sort yourself out man.
Corax
Luke 5:16
timoxensis
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Don't see the point in racism or opposing it...
I reckon it's just human nature..
I reckon it's just human nature..
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
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fogbat
The Talibum
What do you think of people calling Jimmy Hill "Chinny"?
Joe Reilly
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Why not apply that principle to anti-fascism and see where we all end up?
maomao
普費斯
6 million Jews wouldn't have been killed in concentration camps if they'd all left Germany or topped themselves.
Racism isn't the worst thing though - Racism's not my gig but I can't say I'm especially bothered if someone else is racist.
The principle holds true - A few irrelevent trumpets batterring/getting battered by a few other irrelevant trumpets. Should've stayed in the wanking chariot.
Or he could have stayed, called the cops, and filmed them being racist to him as everyone pyschically knows would have happened.
Or he could have stayed and gotten his ass kicked, who knows if the angry lady was serious in her threat. Calling someone to get them to beat the shit out of you is a CRIME! You can't do that. So what do you do? Either walk away, or call the fucking cops!
Comparing this to the broader cause of anti fascism is beyond ridiculous.
So all bipolar sufferers are exactly the same?"Do you feel bad about using the word though?"
"Um.... [looooong pause] kinda sort of"
I don't know what's worse - the racism, or her attempt to blame it on bipolar. I've had a helluva lot of direct experience with bipolar disorder, including a long-term partner. IME it doesn't make you call people niggers. If I was someone with bipolar I'd be fucking angry with her attempt to blame it on that.
Christ, you're still talking shit then Wells. He shouldn't have posted the video because it won't stop racism and instead, phoned the Police and drove away. And people shouldn't highlight her racist tirade because she's bipolar.
Is your argument in essence.
Oh and we're part of the bullying / doing nothing to fight racism by talking about it on the internet. Whilst you're...
That bit was good too.
Is your argument in essence.
Oh and we're part of the bullying / doing nothing to fight racism by talking about it on the internet. Whilst you're...
That bit was good too.
She didn't apologise in that video. The presenter said she called up afterwards and said she wanted to opologise. I suspect she's taken advice from someone in the mean time.
She talks of "they" and "we" on that clip to.
Corax
Luke 5:16
Are they? That was your contention. Bipolar excuses racism, yes?
scalyboy
They’re taking the piss now
Why should he have gone away? He wasn't the one screaming abuse. If someone started ranting at you in the street would you automatically walk away? Why should you alter your plans cos of an obnoxious bully, you might not have finished shopping yet, and still have to go to Boots and Robert Dyas?
As for the threat of physical violence, of course gobshites and bullies will make such threats - it doesn't mean people have to take them at their word.
Why should he have gone away? He wasn't the one screaming abuse. If someone started ranting at you in the street would you automatically walk away? Why should you alter your plans cos of an obnoxious bully, you might not have finished shopping yet, and still have to go to Boots and Robert Dyas?
As for the threat of physical violence, of course gobshites and bullies will make such threats - it doesn't mean people have to take them at their word.
You shouldn't have to alter your plans, but you might be well advised to. You don't know for certain the bully isn't going to carry out his threats.
So yes, walking away is advisable. Sad fact of life.
If someone started ranting at me, like the hideous street preachers in Bristol, yes I probably would walk away.
scalyboy
They’re taking the piss now
You might. Others wouldn't. I'm scarcely a hard nut, but, on rare occasions having had altercations in the street I have been theatened with this and that...it seems to me that the sort of people who talk about what they are going to do to you, rarely actually do so
If I was on my way to Greggs to get a pastie, why the hell should I make a detour and forgo my pastie because of some ranting bully? I find this attitude confusing tbh. If the ranting woman had been a 6' 3" bodybuilder type, maybe that would be different
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Johnny Canuck3
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I've had racist abuse yelled at me in the street - and not just the street. We all have.
In the past, I've tended to do what Wells is saying: walk away. Not because I necessarily thought it was the right thing to do, but because I was afraid that the situation might escalate into violence.
It left me feeling diminished, for two reasons. One, because I'd been racially abused by a stranger, for no reason. Second, because it left me ashamed that I didn't have more courage. I was more concerned about the possibility of some pain, than I was about doing what is right, and standing up for myself.
In the past, I've tended to do what Wells is saying: walk away. Not because I necessarily thought it was the right thing to do, but because I was afraid that the situation might escalate into violence.
It left me feeling diminished, for two reasons. One, because I'd been racially abused by a stranger, for no reason. Second, because it left me ashamed that I didn't have more courage. I was more concerned about the possibility of some pain, than I was about doing what is right, and standing up for myself.
Johnny Canuck3
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The funny thing is, now that I'm older, I don't think I could stomach turning tail and skulking away. I'm afraid that I might speak back.
The worst part of that is, now I'm not as physically fit anymore, and the chance of a beating is that much greater.
Go figure.
The worst part of that is, now I'm not as physically fit anymore, and the chance of a beating is that much greater.
Go figure.
Well, how you handle those situations is your business. The only reason he stays in the clip is so he can film her. Had he not had a phone on him that day he'd have just driven off and we'd be none the wiser.You might. Others wouldn't. I'm scarcely a hard nut, but, on rare occasions having had altercations in the street I have been theatened with this and that...it seems to me that the sort of people who talk about what they are going to do to you, rarely actually do so
If I was on my way to Greggs to get a pastie, why the hell should I make a detour and forgo my pastie because of some ranting bully? I find this attitude confusing tbh. If the ranting woman had been a 6' 3" bodybuilder type, maybe that would be different
You keep saying 'why should I...'
My answer is the same: you shouldn't have to. That's why we don't like bullies and legislate against threatening behaviour. Unfortunately we don't live in a perfect world, so it's your choice if you put yourself in harms way. That's a judgement for you to make. If someone was threatening me I wouldn't be hanging around to see if they were full of shit.
I understand completely and feel much the same. I had an incident last year with an idiot walking his dog along the local cycle lane out in the fields where the sidings are really high. His dog was off the leash and had gone into the siding. being a small dog I couldn't see where it was until it jumped right out in front of my wheel casuing me to brake suddenly. I remonstrated with the guy who told me I was a twat. I called him a cunt and he almost punched me. Regardless of who's right or wrong, I could have walked away and swallowed my pride.The funny thing is, now that I'm older, I don't think I could stomach turning tail and skulking away. I'm afraid that I might speak back.
The worst part of that is, now I'm not as physically fit anymore, and the chance of a beating is that much greater.
Go figure.
Maybe I should have filmed it and stuck it on youtube.
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