Prince Harry

[Bahnhof Strasse]

 

[platinumsage]

Apparently he wanted to cancel publication after his nana died but Random House wouldn't allow it.

He's actually become more trapped now than he was in the firm. Presumably his publisher and netflix, CNN etc were all demanding more and more revelations.

Nonsense. He wanted to cancel it after the Jubilee, realising he did not want to publish while she was alive. She then died in short order and he went full steam ahead, I can imagine the fist pumping in the publishing team’s office when the Queen death news broke.

 

[bellaozzydog]

I don't know if he was boasting - the quotes that have been published don't really make it clear whether he feels remorse or not, maybe they'll read differently in the context of whatever chapter it's in.

I don't want to be Harry's advocate here and I'm not inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt, but there does seem to be some implied criticism of how the military taught him to dehumanise the enemy.

"It wasn't a statistic that filled me with pride but nor did it make me ashamed," he writes. "When I was plunged into the heat and confusion of battle, I didn't think about those as 25 people. You can't kill people if you see them as people. In truth, you can't hurt people if you see them as people. They were chess pieces taken off the board, bad guys eliminated before they kill good guys. They trained me to 'other' them and they trained me well."

You beat me to it

The “boasting” narrative doesn’t fit the actual published detail

it’s actually quite a perceptive/self aware description of his experience in Afghanistan

But it gives every establishment shill and fake journalist plenty of ammo

Wankers like Ex Colonel Tim Collins who is a narcissistic media whore of the the highest order bloviating about it is a bit rich

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

You beat me to it

The “boasting” narrative doesn’t fit the actual published detail

it’s actually quite a perceptive/self aware description of his experience in Afghanistan

But it gives every establishment shill and fake journalist plenty of ammo

Wankers like Ex Colonel Tim Collins who is a narcissistic media whore of the the highest order bloviating about it is a bit rich

Yeah, on the radio yesterday they had cunts like him banging on all morning saying how Harry had let the whole military down and all that. Then they got some bloke on who’d earned a George Cross who said that it wasn’t his style, but he could see why Harry had done it and that it’s perfectly OK to do so. I reckon his word is worth a bit more than the media whores that had been on earlier…

 

[Elpenor]

Someone had better tell “them” and their publishers about the no war stories rule

 

[StakerOne]

Can someone inform me who this gossipy old bitch is?



She keeps popping up on my Youtube shorts feed along with Andrew Tate and Jordan Peterson.

I really don't have an opinion on Harry and Meghan, but this catty cunt can leave my feed immediately. She strikes me as someone with marginal ties to the royals, but is bound and determined to make a buck off it. Which is exactly what she accuses others of doing.

The youtube reccomendations algorithm has spoken and it doesn't bode well for you!

 

[bellaozzydog]

Was this on I’m A Celebrity? I never remember any details once it’s off air each year. I don’t know her from anything else. I seem to remember she claims her title from someone she is no longer married to (Colin Campbell), which is funny in itself because she has to use his name in order to remain a Lady.

The whole edifice in microcosm right there.

I’m fairly sure she was misgendered at birth due to ambiguous genital deformation and brought up as a boy


I hope I didn’t just fuccking make that up


ETA mostly correct

Lady Colin Campbell - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[AverageJoe]

I'm not sure the implications of shagging a horsy lady behind a pub are that grave tbf. it's fairly standard coming of age stuff for the landed classes

I always thought (because Popbitch, which may or may not be a barometer of truth), that Tara Palmer Tompkinson was the deflowerer of both of them.

 

[spitfire]

I always thought (because Popbitch, which may or may not be a barometer of truth), that Tara Palmer Tompkinson was the deflowerer of both of them.

She was born in 1971 (I just googled it) so it fits.

 

[Elpenor]

I always thought (because Popbitch, which may or may not be a barometer of truth), that Tara Palmer Tompkinson was the deflowerer of both of them.

By royal appointment?

 

[AverageJoe]

Pretty much from what they said

 

[nightowl]

I've got no intention of reading the book but as soon as I saw the 'boasting' line being trotted out en masse by the media yesterday in relation to the number of Taliban kills revelation my first thought was, I bet he didn't boast at all, I bet it was just some figure in the middle of a fairly matter of fact line in the book. I'm no cheerleader for the Sussexes but they are on a loser whatever they do and say because it will be twisted by the establishment (I include the media in that) because they are perceived as a threat to the royal family, the ultimate symbol of the 'know your place' system that benefits the bosses and keeps workers down.

 

[MickiQ]

He also says Willie demanded he shave his beard off shouting "I'm the future king..I demand you shave your beard"
Harry says his grandmother decided he didnt have to shave it off and Wille was livid.

What adult man has to check with another adult in their family to get permission to have a beard?

Loads of us unfortunately, Mrs Q hates beards and has always flatly refused to contemplate me growing one. Eldest's husband was clean shaven when they got married but grew a beard for charity after Eldest agreed he could if he shaved it off when finished. Once he had she apparently decided it was a massive turn-on and demanded he keep it. I have pointed out to Mrs Q that she might come to a similar revelation but she refuses to re-consider.

 

[nightowl]

My missus made me shave off my 'tickly' goatee.

 

[A380]

Spoiler alert please.

I’m reading the Hollow Crown and it’s just getting to that bit. Henry VI has just been done in.

Only on Urban would someone ask for spoilers on something that happened 550 years ago…

 

[Pickman's model]

Spoiler alert please.

I’m reading the Hollow Crown and it’s just getting to that bit. Henry VI has just been done in.

You won't believe what happened next

 

[MickiQ]

My missus made me shave off my 'tickly' goatee.

Fist bump Bro

 

[Magnus McGinty]

The King is a constitutional monarch, he has little actual power.

Yeah. The head of state who meets weekly with the prime minister and is one of the country’s biggest landowners (if not the biggest) has little actual power. Just

 

[nightowl]

It's more what they represent - that some people are better than you because of accident of birth - than any real power they have these days. They hold this country back.

 

[A380]

 

[kebabking]

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Bruh, Bahnhof Strasse got this one in earlier....

 

[MickiQ]

It's true that Chucky may have no formal power but he does have influence. He strikes me that as a person he is something of an amiable if ineffectual old duffer and it might very be that he has told Rishi Rich that he doesn't think much of forced deportations to Rwanda or trying to crush the nurses strike. However even when telling Chucky to take a hike, Rishi will still be polite and deferential about it in a way he wouldn't be with most anyone else.
However in many other ways the Royals have greatly benefited from this influence, just how many laws have got 'special' exemptions to the Royal Family in them? There seems to be loads and of course the special treatment meted out to He Who Cannot Sweat. I'm not a hater of them as individuals but the whole institution really has no place in a modern western society.
The idea that one family is special and important purely because of preceding generations is just plain ridiculous. The only place we should hear about kings and princes these days is in fairy stories and Kdrama's on Netflix (which are mostly fairy stories anyway)

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Strikes me that as a person, old sausage fingers is a nasty cunt. I doubt he gives a flying fuck about deportations or strikes or any of the rest of it. Probably only vaguely aware of such things. Queen was the same. Looked after the interests of the royal family and cared about nothing else.

 

[Puddy_Tat]

He strikes me that as a person he is something of an amiable if ineffectual old duffer

dunno - the hissy fits over the pen and something in the wrong place on the table when he had to sign some paper suggest there may be not much doing on the 'amiable' front

 

[Magnus McGinty]

I read that article about the furnishings.

Apparently Meghan was absolutely furious when she saw the furnishings in Kate's apartment. Her PA had to use sofa.com to purchase their stuff. For free. For their free flat. In a palace. I mean, it's fucking outrageous the pain they must have gone through.

I think it’s this that grates the most with me. Turning their noses up at not good enough fixtures and fittings that we fucking pay for.

 

[Pickman's model]

It's true that Chucky may have no formal power but he does have influence. He strikes me that as a person he is something of an amiable if ineffectual old duffer and it might very be that he has told Rishi Rich that he doesn't think much of forced deportations to Rwanda or trying to crush the nurses strike. However even when telling Chucky to take a hike, Rishi will still be polite and deferential about it in a way he wouldn't be with most anyone else.
However in many other ways the Royals have greatly benefited from this influence, just how many laws have got 'special' exemptions to the Royal Family in them? There seems to be loads and of course the special treatment meted out to He Who Cannot Sweat. I'm not a hater of them as individuals but the whole institution really has no place in a modern western society.
The idea that one family is special and important purely because of preceding generations is just plain ridiculous. The only place we should hear about kings and princes these days is in fairy stories and Kdrama's on Netflix (which are mostly fairy stories anyway)

But not I note history books

Charles is anything but an amiable auld duffer, he'd have you disembowelled for putting a pen in the wrong place on a table if he could

 

[eatmorecheese]

This whole set-up needs to go. Strange, inbred parasites with a constitutional position. Grown up countries don't do this.

All these wankers in the media uncritically defending this crap.

The memes are entertaining in a sort of car crash way though.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

This whole set-up needs to go. Strange, inbred parasites with a constitutional position. Grown up countries don't do this.

All these wankers in the media uncritically defending this crap.

The memes are entertaining in a sort of car crash way though.

As an oddity of history, monarchy has survived in Europe mostly in the northwest. So here, Belgium, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Sweden, Norway, Denmark. It was reintroduced in Spain of course, but it's gone everywhere else, save for tiny statelets.

They're not a terrible group of countries to live in, but I don't think there's a causal link. It's simply (Spain excepted) a reflection of a certain continuity of regime without either revolution of some kind or devastating defeat in war. Aside possibly from Spain, I think the UK's monarchy is probably the worst in terms of its deleterious effects on the country.

Monarchies can last a long time just out of inertia. Without a significant jolt of some kind, they don't tend to go. Being pessimistic here, excepting former colonies gaining independence, I can't think of a single instance in which a country has gone from monarchy to republic without some form of (usually violent) rupture.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Yet they incessantly go through the whole pantomime of justifying their existence. Which makes Harold throwing a spanner in the works in order to secure an income pretty amusing. If they hadn’t insisted they be working Royals surely they could have just bought him off and avoided all of this.

 

[eatmorecheese]

Monarchies can last a long time just out of inertia. Without a significant jolt of some kind, they don't tend to go. Being pessimistic here, excepting former colonies gaining independence, I can't think of a single instance in which a country has gone from monarchy to republic without some form of (usually violent) rupture.

Australia and New Zealand could transiion easily without such conflict. It's like the mini Union flag in the corners of their flags. Why would they tie themselves to some family on the other side of the world who don't give a shit about them, particularly as their demographics become more based on the Asia-Pacific? Otherwise, agreed.

ETA:

Keating is a bit of a cunt, but this sums it up.