Prince Harry
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Starry Wisdom
Nailed down? Nailed up
Orang Utan
They cannot crucify you if your hand is in a fist
Look at his scared shitless little scrunched up fizz, even his voice is quavering:
He must know he’s in big trouble
He must know he’s in big trouble
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GarveyLives
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The fantasy ...
The reality ...
"He (then Daily Mirror journalist James Hipwell) also said that it was inconceivable that Mr Morgan, the editor, did not know that he was publishing stories that had come about as a result of phone hacking."
The Duke of Sussex and others -v- MGN Limited [2023] EWHC 3217 (Ch), para 85, ps21-22
“Mr Morgan responded to my question by initially asking me which network provider I used for my mobile phone. I told him which network I was on and Mr Morgan told me the default PIN for that network. He then explained that the default PIN numbers were well known and rarely changed, which is how mobile phone messages could be accessed remotely using the default PIN number. He said to me, “That was how we got the story on Sven and Ulrika”, with a smile, or words to that effect.
The Duke of Sussex and others -v- MGN Limited [2023] EWHC 3217 (Ch), para 93, p23
"In the case of Mr Morgan, the evidence relied on is limited, as I have explained. It appears from what MGN volunteered about not calling Mr Morgan that he was not invited to give evidence on MGN’s behalf to avoid a “side show” distracting from the key issues at trial, though MGN’s pleaded case does state that MGN had obtained evidence from Mr Morgan about the allegations. Mr Morgan has stated publicly on several occasions that although he knew about phone hacking, he has never hacked a phone or instructed anyone to hack a phone or made use of phone hacking. It is therefore possible that he might have said that he told board members about it: he did talk about it in front of the then chairman at lunch"
"In the event, in view of the oral evidence that was given, the documentary evidence and the conclusions that I have reached about the 14 Incidents, it is unnecessary to rely on any adverse inference from the absence of Mr Morgan from the witness box in reaching conclusions about board and legal department
knowledge of VMI ..."
The Duke of Sussex and others -v- MGN Limited [2023] EWHC 3217 (Ch), paras 319-329, p75
"Mr Omid Scobie, a journalist with a particular interest in writing about the lives of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, gave evidence that, when a student of journalism, he spent a week on the showbiz desk of The People and a week with the Mirror’s “3am” team. At The People, he said that he was given a list of mobile telephone numbers and a detailed verbal description of how to listen to voicemails, as if it were a standard newsgathering technique. He said that on one day at the Mirror, Mr Morgan came over to discuss an article being written about Kylie Minogue and James Gooding and asked how confident the team were in the story. He was told that the information had come from voicemails. There is an article about Minogue and Gooding dated 11 May 2002 bylined to James Scott, who was one of the showbiz journalists and a known phone hacker. There is an invoice from TDI to Mr Scott dated 7 May 2002 for “extensive inquiries carried out on your behalf” (for £170) and the mobile telephone numbers of both subjects were in Mr Scott’s Palm Pilot. These documents bear out Mr Scobie’s recollection."
"Mr Scobie was pressed hard about the likely veracity of these accounts, about some evidence that he gave in the Duchess of Sussex’s litigation, and about his motive in giving evidence on behalf of the claimants. He said that he remembered the incidents very well because it was at such a formative stage of his education in journalism and he was shocked by what he learnt. I found Mr Scobie to be a straightforward and reliable witness and I accept what he said about Mr Morgan’s involvement in the Minogue/Gooding story. No evidence was called by MGN to contradict it"
The Duke of Sussex and others -v- MGN Limited [2023] EWHC 3217 (Ch), paras 330-331, ps77-78
The reality ...
"He (then Daily Mirror journalist James Hipwell) also said that it was inconceivable that Mr Morgan, the editor, did not know that he was publishing stories that had come about as a result of phone hacking."
The Duke of Sussex and others -v- MGN Limited [2023] EWHC 3217 (Ch), para 85, ps21-22
“Mr Morgan responded to my question by initially asking me which network provider I used for my mobile phone. I told him which network I was on and Mr Morgan told me the default PIN for that network. He then explained that the default PIN numbers were well known and rarely changed, which is how mobile phone messages could be accessed remotely using the default PIN number. He said to me, “That was how we got the story on Sven and Ulrika”, with a smile, or words to that effect.
The Duke of Sussex and others -v- MGN Limited [2023] EWHC 3217 (Ch), para 93, p23
"In the case of Mr Morgan, the evidence relied on is limited, as I have explained. It appears from what MGN volunteered about not calling Mr Morgan that he was not invited to give evidence on MGN’s behalf to avoid a “side show” distracting from the key issues at trial, though MGN’s pleaded case does state that MGN had obtained evidence from Mr Morgan about the allegations. Mr Morgan has stated publicly on several occasions that although he knew about phone hacking, he has never hacked a phone or instructed anyone to hack a phone or made use of phone hacking. It is therefore possible that he might have said that he told board members about it: he did talk about it in front of the then chairman at lunch"
"In the event, in view of the oral evidence that was given, the documentary evidence and the conclusions that I have reached about the 14 Incidents, it is unnecessary to rely on any adverse inference from the absence of Mr Morgan from the witness box in reaching conclusions about board and legal department
knowledge of VMI ..."
The Duke of Sussex and others -v- MGN Limited [2023] EWHC 3217 (Ch), paras 319-329, p75
"Mr Omid Scobie, a journalist with a particular interest in writing about the lives of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, gave evidence that, when a student of journalism, he spent a week on the showbiz desk of The People and a week with the Mirror’s “3am” team. At The People, he said that he was given a list of mobile telephone numbers and a detailed verbal description of how to listen to voicemails, as if it were a standard newsgathering technique. He said that on one day at the Mirror, Mr Morgan came over to discuss an article being written about Kylie Minogue and James Gooding and asked how confident the team were in the story. He was told that the information had come from voicemails. There is an article about Minogue and Gooding dated 11 May 2002 bylined to James Scott, who was one of the showbiz journalists and a known phone hacker. There is an invoice from TDI to Mr Scott dated 7 May 2002 for “extensive inquiries carried out on your behalf” (for £170) and the mobile telephone numbers of both subjects were in Mr Scott’s Palm Pilot. These documents bear out Mr Scobie’s recollection."
"Mr Scobie was pressed hard about the likely veracity of these accounts, about some evidence that he gave in the Duchess of Sussex’s litigation, and about his motive in giving evidence on behalf of the claimants. He said that he remembered the incidents very well because it was at such a formative stage of his education in journalism and he was shocked by what he learnt. I found Mr Scobie to be a straightforward and reliable witness and I accept what he said about Mr Morgan’s involvement in the Minogue/Gooding story. No evidence was called by MGN to contradict it"
The Duke of Sussex and others -v- MGN Limited [2023] EWHC 3217 (Ch), paras 330-331, ps77-78
wemakeyousoundb
hopefully not gimboid
as a liar under oath he can go for any opportunity that needs a safe pair of hands I would have thought
No time for the royals but delighted he's been caught out.
Fuck you, Morgan.
Fuck you, Morgan.
spring-peeper
Well-Known Member
Who are you talking about? Morgan or Harry?
(another vote for both are despicable)
eta: I can't believe I actually clicked on the thread. And then, I added a post.
Never mind me, just passing through.
mojo pixy
interesting times
I know Hazza is a product of insane and absurd privilege but beyond that general point I don't really have anything against him personally. And the fact that the Piers Morgans of this world hate him so vitriolically is actually a point in his favour tbh. If I had to have a pint with one or the other, I'm pretty sure Harry would provide the better company.
Silas Loom
2028
It’s a horrible choice, but I think Morgan would have a rich store of gossipy anecdotes, and would be much more accustomed to singing for his supper than Windsor.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Morgan’s well known for sloping off to the shitter when it’s his round.
A380
How do I change this 'custom title' thing then?
Harry was born into a world of privilege and power without responsibility and family dysfunction. That’s probably why he is a selfish cunt.
Morgan chose to be a duplicitous ego maniacal man child with a streak of self importance a mile wide.
That’s the difference. At least Harry would bring drugs.
Morgan chose to be a duplicitous ego maniacal man child with a streak of self importance a mile wide.
That’s the difference. At least Harry would bring drugs.
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The new Harry wouldn't be bringing drugs I don't think. I wouldn't last half a pint with either though. Although at least Morgan's a self made man unlike the parasite who's still whining about us not paying for his bodyguards from his £14m mansion in california.
Orang Utan
They cannot crucify you if your hand is in a fist
I once saw a very satisfying clip of the fuckwit batting against England cricketers. They were basically just assaulting him as if he was old Don Bradman.
I’ll see I can find it…
I’ll see I can find it…
Orang Utan
They cannot crucify you if your hand is in a fist
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
The Piss Artist Formally Sued By Prince
souljacker
innit
If the question is, who would I like to spend an evening in the pub with, then Piers, egotistical little shit bag that he is, would be a far more entertaining evening guest than Harry. Harry would be very dull, probably order something like a kale smoothie or some weird avocado drink then not say much before excusing himself.
Piers is way too up himself to not start dishing the dirt on lots of celebs as soon as he's 2 pints in.
Piers is way too up himself to not start dishing the dirt on lots of celebs as soon as he's 2 pints in.
That was bizarre, agreed. I mean the guy's a massive twat in real life like he is here but it was more the casting of the actor. He looks, sounds and behaves absolutely nothing like Harold. Dominic West is terribly miscast as well. Chuck must love watching himself being played by him.
bcuster
Well-Known Member
This is a bit baffling:
nypost.com
Pat McAfee rips ESPN for honoring Prince Harry with Pat Tillman Award: ‘Trying to piss people off’
Prince Harry being named the recipient of the Pat Tillman award left a stale taste in McAfee’s mouth.
nypost.com
spring-peeper
Well-Known Member
This is a bit baffling:
Pat McAfee rips ESPN for honoring Prince Harry with Pat Tillman Award: ‘Trying to piss people off’
Prince Harry being named the recipient of the Pat Tillman award left a stale taste in McAfee’s mouth.
First of all - he was not a pilot, he failed the test twice.
Secondly, rumours say he is getting it so his visa gets accepted.
Even more baffling for those of us who don't wish to click on a right wing rag.This is a bit baffling:
Pat McAfee rips ESPN for honoring Prince Harry with Pat Tillman Award: ‘Trying to piss people off’
Prince Harry being named the recipient of the Pat Tillman award left a stale taste in McAfee’s mouth.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
NGN offers a full and unequivocal apology to the Duke of Sussex for the serious intrusion by The Sun between 1996 and 2011 into his private life, including incidents of unlawful activities carried out by private investigators working for The Sun.
NGN also offers a full and unequivocal apology to the Duke of Sussex for the phone hacking, surveillance and misuse of private information by journalists and private investigators instructed by them at the News of the World.
NGN further apologises to the Duke for the impact on him of the extensive coverage and serious intrusion into his private life as well as the private life of Diana, Princess of Wales, his late mother, in particular during his younger years.
We acknowledge and apologise for the distress caused to the Duke, and the damage inflicted on relationships, friendships and family, and have agreed to pay him substantial damages. It is also acknowledged, without any admission of illegality, that NGN's response to the 2006 arrests and subsequent actions were regrettable.
NGN also offers a full and unequivocal apology to Lord Watson for the unwarranted intrusion carried out into his private life during his time in Government by the News of the World during the period 2009- 2011.
This includes him being placed under surveillance in 2009 by journalists at the News of the World and those instructed by them. NGN also acknowledges and apologises for the adverse impact this had on Lord Watson's family and has agreed to pay him substantial damages.
In addition, in 2011 News International received information that information was being passed covertly to Lord Watson from within News International. We now understand that this information was false, and Lord Watson was not in receipt of any such confidential information. NGN apologises fully and unequivocally for this.
eatmorecheese
He's fallen out of the car again
So is The Sun and News International a criminal enterprise then? I mean, officially?
Winot
I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint
"without any admission of illegality"
skyscraper101
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Standard settlement language
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Not really giving a fuck about the royals have not followed this much, but have always been surprised at how quickly everyone seem to hate on him. It has not become a little clearer; take on the media and they will slap you the fuck down, Murdoch and Dacre (especially Dacre) have been relentlessly rubbishing him for years now and that's got through the public consciousness that Harry is somehow a worse person than his Uncle Andy. Fucking nuts.
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VivaE
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Well done to Harry and Tom Watson for holding NGN to account.
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