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PM Boris Johnson - monster thread for a monster twat

she's been looking dystopian for years
not sure if you can blame the turkish doctors

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Poor Katie. Think her books were all ghostwritten but have never tempted me in. I was quite intrigued to see her stand as an independent in Stretford and Urmstron in 2001 - I have no idea what ticket she was standing on.
 
I get Daily Fail popups I don't know how to turn off and I close them down faster than a punk rocker pogo-ing to the Sex Pistols loaded up on amphetatmine sulphate

For our younger posters, the Sex Pistols were a moderately successful band nearly 50 years ago who Boris Johnson would have had the flag shaggers after, if he was PM then.

Maybe he's always been PM. Just with different faces on.
 
He's good at buttering people up, to whose benefit though is usually his own calculating, cunning ambition. He uses people expertly. It matters whether they are good people because they set the rules, take the decisions and in fact have little accountability. They direct our lives more and more. A lot of them aren't useful in any real important sense. It's acceptance of an irrational ruling class oppression whilst appealing to human qualities and populism. Time is running out and the system is running out of steam.
 
Why are they calling the end of lockdown the Big Bang? Has Alexander Boris ever read a single word of a science book? Or is he so dutifully reading his Michael Gove King James Bible that he thinks like Edwin Poots that the world is 4000 years old?

 
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I understand (even if I may not agree with) the reasoning behind ending restrictions so as to open up businesses again, but what puzzles me is the ending of mandatory mask wearing in public places, like crowded buses and trains.
Couldn’t restrictions on restaurants, pubs, museums, galleries etc have been lifted but masks kept mandatory (not that everyone is complying now anyway)?

We know Johnson is weak and a people-pleaser, but as far as I can tell, this ending of mask regulations is only in response to lockdown-sceptic Tory extremist back-benchers and conspiraloons. Why is he kowtowing to them? Is it because the Daily Mail has gone ‘sceptic’? Or am I missing something?
 
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I understand (even if I may not agree with) the reasoning behind ending restrictions so as to open up businesses again, but what puzzles me is the ending of mandatory mask wearing in public places, like crowded buses and trains.
Couldn’t both have been done?

We know Johnson is weak and a people-pleaser, but as far as I can tell, this ending of mask regulations is only in response to lockdown-sceptic Tory extremist back-benchers and conspiraloons. Why is he kowtowing to them? Is it because the Daily Mail has gone ‘sceptic’? Or am I missing something?
Weak is an understatement.

Queenie: “I may have the body of a weak and feeble woman, but I have the heart and stomach of a concrete elephant.”

 
I understand (even if I may not agree with) the reasoning behind ending restrictions so as to open up businesses again, but what puzzles me is the ending of mandatory mask wearing in public places, like crowded buses and trains.
Couldn’t restrictions on restaurants, pubs, museums, galleries etc have been lifted but masks kept mandatory (not that everyone is complying now anyway)?

We know Johnson is weak and a people-pleaser, but as far as I can tell, this ending of mask regulations is only in response to lockdown-sceptic Tory extremist back-benchers and conspiraloons. Why is he kowtowing to them? Is it because the Daily Mail has gone ‘sceptic’? Or am I missing something?
Herd immunity. They want people to get it now, rather than in winter when there are other pressures on the NHS.

some very obvious problems with this approach (see Brazil and India for example), but that’s the gist of it.
 
Herd immunity. They want people to get it now, rather than in winter when there are other pressures on the NHS.

some very obvious problems with this approach (see Brazil and India for example), but that’s the gist of it.
Got it, this makes sense, especially given that herd immunity was originally the plan back in March 2020, even before any vaccine was available. And would have been official policy had there not been a massive Twitter and focus group backlash. Presumably the same focus groups are now demanding their 'freedom' from masks.

Criminal negligence, but what's new? It still seems incredible that a sociopath who is quoted as saying "let the bodies pile up in their thousands" is still in power, but hey ho, maybe I'm naive.
 
Got it, this makes sense, especially given that herd immunity was originally the plan back in March 2020, even before any vaccine was available. And would have been official policy had there not been a massive Twitter and focus group backlash. Presumably the same focus groups are now demanding their 'freedom' from masks.

Criminal negligence, but what's new? It still seems incredible that a sociopath who is quoted as saying "let the bodies pile up in their thousands" is still in power, but hey ho, maybe I'm naive.
Sociopath or psychopath?

 
Got it, this makes sense, especially given that herd immunity was originally the plan back in March 2020, even before any vaccine was available. And would have been official policy had there not been a massive Twitter and focus group backlash. Presumably the same focus groups are now demanding their 'freedom' from masks.

Criminal negligence, but what's new? It still seems incredible that a sociopath who is quoted as saying "let the bodies pile up in their thousands" is still in power, but hey ho, maybe I'm naive.
The change has happened because the libertarian right are in the driving seat. It’s all about ‘personal responsibility’ now, the government has no business making laws. Except for the one small fact that responsibility stretches beyond the self for most normally-wired people, masks aren’t primarily for protecting yourself.
 
The change has happened because the libertarian right are in the driving seat. It’s all about ‘personal responsibility’ now, the government has no business making laws. Except for the one small fact that responsibility stretches beyond the self for most normally-wired people, masks aren’t primarily for protecting yourself.
the problem is they're in the driving seat with neither licence nor insurance nor a clew of how to drive yet hurtling the wrong way down a one-way street
 
The change has happened because the libertarian right are in the driving seat. It’s all about ‘personal responsibility’ now, the government has no business making laws. Except for the one small fact that responsibility stretches beyond the self for most normally-wired people, masks aren’t primarily for protecting yourself.
So will these Randian lunatics try to abolish mandatory vehicle insurance, seat belt & motorbike helmet laws next? Christ’s wounds.
 
Spanish flu (which I think killed 20 million) took 4 years to burn out

20m was the original estimates though there have been more recent attempts to quantify the numbers. Most seem to agree it was closer to 50m with some even suggesting as much as 100mm by the end of it all. Basically it was the Great War and its aftermath, death was everywhere and people were being moved all over the place. No one was really counting.

We've seen with covid how hard it is to know real numbers because so many places don't count or at least attempt to count accurately. Even those who do are quite happy to cook the books in various ways.

And it originated in the US

Maybe. Its not really known where it originated and there are various theories. It was certainly identified on a US military base so that's as good a theory as any but there are other plausible theories. One such one looks at how China largely escaped a lot of the worse of the Spanish flu (subsequent waves anyway) which might suggest there was a decent level of immunity in the country.

To be honest the only thing we can really be sure of was that it didn't originate in Spain.
 
the problem is they're in the driving seat with neither licence nor insurance nor a clew of how to drive yet hurtling the wrong way down a one-way street
I had a dream last year around March, in which I was in the back seat of a Mini sat next to Johnson's father. Johnson got in the driving seat and proceeded to drive wildly, careering all over the shop before crashing the motor into a tree. "For Christ's sake man", bellowed his father, "Are you trying to get us all killed?!"

I didn't need a Billy Crystal or a Bob de Niro to analyse that dream.
 
I had a dream last year around March, in which I was in the back seat of a Mini sat next to Johnson's father. Johnson got in the driving seat and proceeded to drive wildly, careering all over the shop before crashing the motor into a tree. "For Christ's sake man", bellowed his father, "Are you trying to get us all killed?!"

I didn't need a Billy Crystal or a Bob de Niro to analyse that dream.
Fortunately the Johnson clan have never troubled my dreams. If I did I have to get to Hampstead to see Sigmund Freud fast.
 
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