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teuchter said:
Most people don't really care about all of that detail. Or at least, if the perception is that we come out of Covid having apparently dealt with it no worse or even better than other countries, I think they'll be relatively forgiving about failings along the way.
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The only weakness I can see is Brexit's inevitable failure. But they will kick the can so far down the road you'd need to be a flat earther to still see it. Perhaps the EU hitting us with trade sanctions or, however unlikely, not ratifying the deal might shake up the complacency. The only thing, beyond revolutionary activity, that could shake these Tories is capital demanding to know why it's minions have killed our economy.
 
glitch hiker said:
The only weakness I can see is Brexit's inevitable failure. But they will kick the can so far down the road you'd need to be a flat earther to still see it. Perhaps the EU hitting us with trade sanctions or, however unlikely, not ratifying the deal might shake up the complacency. The only thing, beyond revolutionary activity, that could shake these Tories is capital demanding to know why it's minions have killed our economy.
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Brexit is not going to result in some earth shattering economic event even though some remainers appear to be wishing it will which I find strange. All that will happen is that the GDP of the country will be somewhat lower than had we stayed in. Most people will not notice the difference. However many leave voters despite voting Tory will want the GDP to be spent to benefit the poorer not the more wealthy which might prove a problem for the Tories at next GE unless they turn into socialists.

The promises to level up will most likely be broken but Labour still has a monumental task due to the unfairness of our fptp voting system. This government won a large majority on less than 44% of the popular vote.
 
I would guess most journalists that write for national newspapers & work in tv & radio are either on half £mill salaries or hope to be one day so most will give the wealthy an easy ride.
 
teuchter said:
Seems entirely plausible to me that the UK will end up with a death rate very close to the EU average.

It's probably not going to be the case that Boris Johnson has overseen an exceptionally catastrophic response to the pandemic. Folks need to set their expectations for any "backlash" accordingly.

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Its as equally plausible that we will have a third wave with many more deaths. An advanced vaccination program is no guarantee, just look at Chile.

But this is all guessing on what ifs. As it stands the UK still has the worst death rate in the world (per head of population). That sort of thing doesn't just happen by accident.
 
Teaboy said:
Its as equally plausible that we will have a third wave with many more deaths. An advanced vaccination program is no guarantee, just look at Chile.

But this is all guessing on what ifs. As it stands the UK still has the worst death rate in the world (per head of population). That sort of thing doesn't just happen by accident.
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No indeed, it takes all the planning and skills of men and women who've been to the country's top public schools and honed their abilities through studying at Oxbridge
 
BobDavis said:
Brexit is not going to result in some earth shattering economic event even though some remainers appear to be wishing it will which I find strange. All that will happen is that the GDP of the country will be somewhat lower than had we stayed in. Most people will not notice the difference. However many leave voters despite voting Tory will want the GDP to be spent to benefit the poorer not the more wealthy which might prove a problem for the Tories at next GE unless they turn into socialists.

The promises to level up will most likely be broken but Labour still has a monumental task due to the unfairness of our fptp voting system. This government won a large majority on less than 44% of the popular vote.
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I'm not even sure Labour wants to win, rather than purge it's party. Those elected as MP's already have it pretty good, why bother with the added hassle of being in government and having responsibility. Just so long as you can continue blaming everything on the 'hard left'.

I don't know how severe Brexit will get. Perhaps you're right and people will just get used to shrinking horizons while sitting and watching endless repeats of Phil's funeral. Endlessly feeling sorry for lonely Liz in her big house with her big hat. Ambitions curtailed for future generations. All rather cheery stuff
 
glitch hiker said:
I'm not even sure Labour wants to win, rather than purge it's party. Those elected as MP's already have it pretty good, why bother with the added hassle of being in government and having responsibility. Just so long as you can continue blaming everything on the 'hard left'.

I don't know how severe Brexit will get. Perhaps you're right and people will just get used to shrinking horizons while sitting and watching endless repeats of Phil's funeral. Endlessly feeling sorry for lonely Liz in her big house with her big hat. Ambitions curtailed for future generations. All rather cheery stuff
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Insofar as the queen is alone with a load of servants and other hirelings
 
Pickman's model said:
No indeed, it takes all the planning and skills of men and women who've been to the country's top public schools and honed their abilities through studying at Oxbridge
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Indeed & all that planning & skills revolve around the gradual casualisation of the workforce & then finding that no money for not turning up for work causes people not to self isolate when they have symptoms. Which probably accounts for much of our high death rate.
 
MrSki said:
What pisses me off the most is the lack of accountability.

The papers are mainly owned by tax avoiding billionaire cunts & the TV is not much better with the BBC being run by a load of tories who are scared for their future. Thames TV became history after its 'Death on the Rock' doco & I think that sent shivers through the industry. God it is depressing.

Remember when Cecil Parkinson had to resign for getting his secretary up the duff? Fuckers now are getting away with murder.
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There seems to have been a concerted effort to kill accountability and press exposure of dodgy practices thats just hammered everything flat since the 90's, remember things like The Cook Report? You wouldn't find a broadcaster alive now who'd let someone run around calling actual businessmen or politicians cunts. All those late night TV shows that raked people over the coals? The local papers are to reliant on advertising to dig up news if they can even afford a local reporter to actually report on things.

About the only thing out there that consistently dredges the murky depths is Private Eye and thats got its own fucking problems.
 
glitch hiker said:
I'm not even sure Labour wants to win, rather than purge it's party. Those elected as MP's already have it pretty good, why bother with the added hassle of being in government and having responsibility. Just so long as you can continue blaming everything on the 'hard left'.

I don't know how severe Brexit will get. Perhaps you're right and people will just get used to shrinking horizons while sitting and watching endless repeats of Phil's funeral. Endlessly feeling sorry for lonely Liz in her big house with her big hat. Ambitions curtailed for future generations. All rather cheery stuff
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Oh I think Starmer want to win & please stop going on about brexit as if it will be any sort of issue at the next GE. In fact what might cause voters not to support Labour is if they believe Labour have any thought of rejoining the EU. To Starmer’s credit he knows that already & has said so.
 
Artaxerxes said:
There seems to have been a concerted effort to kill accountability and press exposure of dodgy practices thats just hammered everything flat since the 90's, remember things like The Cook Report? You wouldn't find a broadcaster alive now who'd let someone run around calling actual businessmen or politicians cunts. All those late night TV shows that raked people over the coals? The local papers are to reliant on advertising to dig up news if they can even afford a local reporter to actually report on things.

About the only thing out there that consistently dredges the murky depths is Private Eye and thats got its own fucking problems.
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Byline times seems to be out there but not enough main stream. I have steam coming out of my ears as well as hairs!
 
BobDavis said:
Indeed & all that planning & skills revolve around the gradual casualisation of the workforce & then finding that no money for not turning up for work causes people not to self isolate when they have symptoms. Which probably accounts for much of our high death rate.
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There are ~1450 further deaths that haven't yet happened which, should they occur simultaneous would enthuse the population
 
I find that none of the news not really reported on by the Tory rags is difficult to find on my iPad from mostly mainstream sources. Listen to R4 news & there is plenty of reports about post brexit trading difficulties & Cameron’s get rich quick schemes. I think though most people are not interested in politics & would rather watch anything but politics on tv. I find interviews of politicians tediously predictable. They won’t answer questions so little point in interviewing them imo.
 
stavros said:
How much does it say about the media that Oakeshott still gets employed, despite co-writing the nonsense that was Call Me Dave?

On second thoughts, be careful of what you wish for; lying journalists have gone onto to more harm in other fields.
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She's probably got a job because of the family name, after all Michael Oakeshott (the don of british conservative thinkers) was a grandfather/relation.*

*not sure which.
 
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