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miliband always looked inredibly insincere. something a bit immature about him, no? his brother would make a far better leader.
 
...his brother would make a far better leader.

his brother would certainly have connected - regardless of policy - with reluctant tories/LD's, whether he would have been as good, or better, at connecting with 'traditional' Labour voters as EM is a matter for bebate.
 
I voted Tory as a first time voter (long time lurker of this forum & supporter of socialism) for 2 reasons:

1) Economic stability is the keystone upon which socialism can be built. The tory's provide this, through their short-term management of the deficit and stabilising of bond markets.
2) As a person interested in social justice, particularly feminism and gay rights, I have been put off Labour by the attitude displayed on this board. While Labour and the Left are frantically trying (as seen a few posts above this) to link low-stakes opposition to casual sexism and homophobia to their historical failure to garner any support, the Tories have actually been consciously getting on board with social justice.

It is sad that the Tory party, rather than the UK left or the Labour party, could provide a solid base for social justice and socialism, but there you. A testament to the stagnant state of trotpolitic.


You voted Tory in order to gain socialism?
 
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Maybe.

...but he's not alone in feeling like the economy is "recovering".

Now it may well be illusory, it may well be limited geographically and/or socially.

It may well be bollocks.

But (some) people believe it.


not as many as you may believe. I saw some figures just a few months ago showing that even swathes of the tory vote either don't believe it or don't believe it has recovered for them.
 
problem is if the alternative to an upper class git is a bloke in a suit in a £2million inherited quid home its a bit :hmm:

Dan jarvis maybe an ex para but is a break from the westminster hothouse having served in the army a slightly more proper job than say
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yvette_Cooper#Early_career might even have worked alongside a prole:D:eek:

I would like to hope that Jarvis might interpet Cameron acting up at PMQs as a 'peaceful protest', to be dealt with in the authentic Para manner. . .
 
problem is if the alternative to an upper class git is a bloke in a suit in a £2million inherited quid home its a bit :hmm:

Dan jarvis maybe an ex para but is a break from the westminster hothouse having served in the army a slightly more proper job than say
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yvette_Cooper#Early_career might even have worked alongside a prole:D:eek:

He's not standing anyway.

I am finding it a little bitterly funny the focus on who will be the Labour leader, where they went wrong etc. 2 months ago most here were saying Labour = Tory. They are dead to me. They want to appeal more and more to the conservative middle, to out Tory the Tories then. This is what success to Labour will be in 5 years or more. We all know that. Let's move on some how.
 
Dan jarvis maybe an ex para but is a break from the westminster hothouse having served in the army a slightly more proper job than say
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yvette_Cooper#Early_career might even have worked alongside a prole:D:eek:

no no no - a 15 year career in the Army involving operations in the Balkans, Sierra Leone and Iraq, staff jobs and defence academy, culminating in commanding of over 150 men from all backrounds on operations in Afghanistan brings nothing like the depth of life exerience and exposure to people that, say, leaving university to work as an MP's researcher, then a parliamenary officer for a union, then a SPAD before becoming an MP brings.

he probably doesn't even know what a Flat White is...
 
no no no - a 15 year career in the Army involving operations in the Balkans, Sierra Leone and Iraq, staff jobs and defence academy, culminating in commanding of over 150 men from all backrounds on operations in Afghanistan brings nothing like the depth of life exerience and exposure to people that, say, leaving university to work as an MP's researcher, then a parliamenary officer for a union, then a SPAD before becoming an MP brings.

he probably doesn't even know what a Flat White is...
everyone knows it's a great white which has been run over
 
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