people who voted tory

[littlebabyjesus]

Er, very clearly bollocks.

 

[danny la rouge]

Er, very clearly bollocks.

So believable that I still believe it.

 

[butchersapron]

So believable that I still believe it.

There's an underlying informal intuitive truth there.

 

[Maurice Picarda]

I don't know why people feel the need to. Is Guardian journalist Polly Torybe behind it?

I'm not surprised that Toynbee lacks the political and statistical intuition or the design savvy to identify an obvious fraud, but I'm surprised by you.

 

[danny la rouge]

I'm not surprised that Toynbee lacks the political and statistical intuition or the design savvy to identify an obvious fraud, but I'm surprised by you.

I'm as much prey to my prejudices as anyone else.

 

[Pickman's model]

Er, very clearly bollocks.

nice to see you cogently present the reasoning behind the conclusion.

 

[rekil]

Michael White isn't sure if the MS Paint job poll purporting to be from the paper that he's assistant editor of is 4 real.

 

[butchersapron]

And he can't even get the fake figure right. Too busy hiding behind grand columns trying not to let the guards spot his cans.

 

[emanymton]

Vast majority at Glastonbury voted Tory, apparently.

Doesn't surprise me, I always suspected as much.

Hopefully a few more will turn up dead in the toilets.

 

[zxspectrum]

Is 1000 people really enough to be representative?

If so then fuck.

No wonder they hired a millionaire karaoke act.

 

[Maurice Picarda]

Is 1000 people really enough to be representative?

Look at the pie chart and the legend for goodness sake - it's close to bog standard Excel. The Graun has a huge graphics team which would never stoop that low. And look at the title case in "general election" and "did not vote" - hardly house style.

Oh yes, and the absurd and utterly unconvincing numbers.

 

[butchersapron]

Yeah?

 

[Maurice Picarda]

What point are you making?

 

[butchersapron]

That the guardian would, and has, in fact, stooped so low. Despite their huge graphic team.

I know, let's do a pie chart!

 

[emanymton]

Yet the Guardian published this as well.

Glastonbury – which, when I first came, was known as the Glastonbury CND festival – still has a radical, egalitarian spirit that can be picked up all over the site

 

[Maurice Picarda]

That the guardian would, and has, in fact, stooped so low. Despite their huge graphic team.

I know, let's do a pie chart!

It's the design of the pie chart and labels and the horrid (and superfluous) legend at the bottom that looks wrong, not the choice of exhibit. Much as it would make Edward Tufte cry.

 

[danny la rouge]

It's the design of the pie chart and labels and the horrid (and superfluous) legend at the bottom that looks wrong

Side by side with butchersapron's example, I can see the difference. But without the comparison I wouldn't have known it wasn't from the Guardian by the style. And indeed I didn't. Nor did two of their well-known senior journalists. What can I say, I'm not a graphic designer. (And I'd only seen it on my phone at first anyway, not on a big screen).

As for the figures being "utterly unconvincing", aside from the low showing for the Greens, they supported my suspicions. I suppose that's what makes a good lie.

 

[zxspectrum]

Look at the pie chart and the legend for goodness sake - it's close to bog standard Excel. The Graun has a huge graphics team which would never stoop that low. And look at the title case in "general election" and "did not vote" - hardly house style.

Oh yes, and the absurd and utterly unconvincing numbers.

So who created this then?

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

As for the figures being "utterly unconvincing", aside from the low showing for the Greens, they supported my suspicions. I suppose that's what makes a good lie.

The really unbelievable bit is that they claimed of the 1000 people surveyed only 4% didn't vote, IMO.

 

[Maurice Picarda]

So who created this then?

No idea. But then, it's still unclear who came up with the Zinoviev letter. Even piss-poor forgers can manage at the least to cover their tracks.

 

[Pickman's model]

I visited a friend on Saturday and he and his wife voted Conservative. With their 5 month old son they think they will be better off as a family under the Tories.

and how are they doing now?

 

[Mr Retro]

and how are they doing now?

You're the political genius ( ) Do you think young families with both parents working are better off Under the Tory government?

 

[Pickman's model]

You're the political genius ( ) Do you think young families with both parents working are better off Under the Tory government?

How are they doing now?

 

[bi0boy]

A Tory family's S&S JISAs and SIPPs will be up a fuck load more than they would have been under Milliband, as will their rents.