Paxo v Brand starts in 5 minutes

[ruffneck23]

The internets is finally gathering speed everyone's opinion is easily accessed from anyone , people can hear you voice , and agree or cuss it as they seem appropriate to their own beliefs the world has never had that before killer b

 

[butchersapron]

That's neither what Brand's said, nor what I've 'endorsed', nor what I've said. And part of your post doesn't even make a blind bit of sense so I've no clue what it means. Other than that you're spot on.

Try it now christian:

You've endorsed the idea that the left only want traitors whilst calling people traitors yourself, then, you later post a quote following criticism of Brand, that mocks people who only see saints or sinners. Seems pretty clear.

 

[frogwoman]

he already has a massive platform by the bbc and shit loads of money some of which hes given to david icke ff. would it be all right irf he was a long time supporter of the EDL and gave tommy robinson loads of money to set up a "peoples initiative"?

i find this rage inducing and depressing

 

[butchersapron]

He's a fallen angel eh corax, oh if only the other thickos could recognise his ambiguity - his social meaning - as i do.

 

[Corax]

Try it now christian:

Original reply still applies.

He's a fallen angel eh corax, oh if only the other thickos could recognise his ambiguity - his social meaning - as i do.

That's in your mind only, Meg.

 

[butchersapron]

Original reply still applies.

That's in your mind only, Meg.

This, was in yours - why don't you own it?

There is no in-between. All are either saints or demons, all their works either gospel or blasphemy.

Why run away? You either now think it's crap or you still believe it - which is it?

 

[Corax]

This, was in yours - why don't you own it?



Why run away? You either now think it's crap or you still believe it - which is it?

Do you really not get it? It was a parody of people like you.

 

[butchersapron]

Do you really not get it? It was a parody of you.

Oddly enough, yeah, hence the reaction you prat. After me offering a nuanced reading of the brand stuff as well, one that was far beyond anything you offered and certainly not

There is no in-between. All are either saints or demons, all their works either gospel or blasphemy.

Well done corax. Well done. You didn't offer anything. Cheers.

 

[frogwoman]

on this occasion butchers is right sorry

 

[Divisive Cotton]

The Paul Mason write-up: http://www.channel4.com/news/russell-brand-jeremy-paxman-anti-capitalist-revolution-bbc

When Russell Brand told Jeremy Paxman there would an anti-capitalist revolution, the comedian was speaking for all those who despise what growing inequality is doing to their lives.

Russell Brand skewered my old mate Jeremy Paxman last night, on the subject of "revolution". Or rather, they skewered each other. It was one of those rare media occasions where each participant achieves exactly what they want to: Russell to inspire a generation, Jeremy to get a feisty interview with one of the key voices of his age.

 

[killer b]

jesus christ corax.

 

[catinthehat]

I may be wildly off the mark on the cave front and know little of the content of Ikes conspiracy theories but he is not the first to talk about caves. In a non 'Welcome to the Peak District' sense.

 

[frogwoman]

if tommy robinson had a celebrity backer who laid into paxman on newsnight, however naivethe person was, and had a new statesman job and called for a revolution then i doubt trots etc would be retweeting his shit, really don't see how this is different quite frankly

 

[butchersapron]

The disgusting piety of the i'm against things - aren't you against things mindset.

 

[butchersapron]

I may be wildly off the mark on the cave front and know little of the content of Ikes conspiracy theories but he is not the first to talk about caves. In a non 'Welcome to the Peak District' sense.

Seriously, these people have take the idea and ran with it, mirrored it with the idea of coming into the light, you've been trapped by others in a cave. Forget plato here.

 

[discokermit]

he's got more working class people talking about revolution than anybody else lately.

 

[Divisive Cotton]

I thought it was a fun interview - populist to fuck, but this is Russell Brand the comedian. He made a lot of good points and did so with genuine passion and elequoence.

 

[frogwoman]

i think mark the taxi driver makes the same points with a lot more eloquence

 

[butchersapron]

he's got more working class people talking about revolution than anybody else lately.

Not good enough for corax - others must be identified as insufficiently supportive, all the better to get the "There is no in-between. All are either saints or demons, all their works either gospel or blasphemy." tattoo.

 

[Divisive Cotton]

i think mark the taxi driver makes the same points with a lot more eloquence

I'm sure there's tons of people who make the same points with a lot more eloquence but they aren't being interviewed by Jeremy Paxman on Newsnight and having the link to the interview shared around on social media

 

[butchersapron]

I'm sure there's tons of people who make the same points with a lot more eloquence but they aren't being interviewed by Jeremy Paxman on Newsnight and having the link to the interview shared around on social media

This is a problem then isn't it? How are we going to make this stuff real elsewhere? If we don't it's just asking for more people to go on news-night.

 

[Divisive Cotton]

This is a problem then isn't it? How are we going to make this stuff real elsewhere? If we don't it's just asking for more people to go on news-night.

totally agree, but you know the right spark and all that. The uprising in Istanbul began over the saving of a small, local park but in the process brought up a lot of big political issues and mobilised thousands of people.

 

[frogwoman]

I'm sure there's tons of people who make the same points with a lot more eloquence but they aren't being interviewed by Jeremy Paxman on Newsnight and having the link to the interview shared around on social media

millionaire Icke supporters are calling for revolution against their own class on news night and this is a good thing? how is this any different to what laurie pennie is doing when she becomes an editor of the new statesman and gets up in the oxford union and calls herself a revolutionary socialist?

 

[frogwoman]

totally agree, but you know the right spark and all that. The uprising in Istanbul began over the saving of a small, local park but in the process brought up a lot of big political issues and mobilised thousands of people.

but this isn't about a park being saved this is a millionaire who supports david icke coming onto news night and talking about stuff, why is he in a position to go on it anyway? whe is he on newsnight and we're not? etc

 

[butchersapron]

General: In peoples daily life - how did this thing become an issue? List the ways here. To me it didn't. To you it might - how?

 

[discokermit]

millionaire Icke supporters are calling for revolution against their own class on news night and this is a good thing? how is this any different to what laurie pennie is doing when she becomes an editor of the new statesman and gets up in the oxford union and calls herself a revolutionary socialist?

nobody except the left gives a fuck what laurie penny does.

 

[frogwoman]

nobody except the left gives a fuck what laurie penny does.

exactly

 

[butchersapron]

nobody except the left gives a fuck what laurie penny does.

She edits the paper this brand character edited this time. The last time this happened the rich person jemmima khan paid to take it over and guest edit. It's worth pointing out the pot they all piss in.

 

[Corax]

I'm sure there's tons of people who make the same points with a lot more eloquence but they aren't being interviewed by Jeremy Paxman on Newsnight and having the link to the interview shared around on social media

And neither is it likely they'll be. Celebrity has power. Whether it should or shouldn't is irrelevant. So shunning it out of some sort of leftist puritanism is just self-defeating.

 

[butchersapron]

And neither is it likely they'll be. Celebrity has power. Whether it should or shouldn't is irrelevant. So shunning it out of some sort of leftist puritanism is just self-defeating.

Oh great, now we're puritans - why did you use this pejorative? It's traitor gait#3. ffs.